1 00:00:23,830 --> 00:00:18,849 [Music] 2 00:00:27,109 --> 00:00:23,840 the spoke radio for the masses of July 8 3 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:27,119 1947 the Army Air Forces has announced 4 00:00:31,609 --> 00:00:29,519 that a flying disc has been found and is 5 00:00:34,670 --> 00:00:31,619 now in the possession of the army 6 00:00:38,389 --> 00:00:34,680 game is rigged change the game game 7 00:00:41,630 --> 00:00:38,399 changer I occasionally think how quickly 8 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:41,640 hard difference is worldwide would 9 00:00:46,750 --> 00:00:44,760 vanish if we were facing an alien threat 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:46,760 from outside this work 11 00:00:51,069 --> 00:00:48,570 [Music] 12 00:00:54,049 --> 00:00:51,079 [Applause] 13 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,059 this is Fade to Black with your host 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:56,879 Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio 15 00:00:59,569 --> 00:00:57,530 Network 16 00:01:00,950 --> 00:00:59,579 [Music] 17 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:00,960 thank you 18 00:01:05,690 --> 00:01:04,140 all right welcome Fade to Black I am 19 00:01:07,090 --> 00:01:05,700 your host Jimmy Church what is cracking 20 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:07,100 everybody today 21 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:10,580 is January 5th 22 00:01:17,649 --> 00:01:14,159 2023 our guest tonight is Christina 23 00:01:19,730 --> 00:01:17,659 Gomez the Paranormal host 24 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:19,740 and uh 25 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:21,600 yeah I just want to say this about 26 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:23,580 Christina really quick uh without going 27 00:01:27,710 --> 00:01:25,680 through a really long bio but she's a 28 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:27,720 content creator she's very busy she's 29 00:01:33,289 --> 00:01:30,479 got three four five six shows that she's 30 00:01:36,109 --> 00:01:33,299 doing a week she's now got a a music 31 00:01:39,649 --> 00:01:36,119 channel as well 32 00:01:40,749 --> 00:01:39,659 um her shows include oh man Shifting the 33 00:01:44,390 --> 00:01:40,759 Paradigm 34 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:44,400 uh strange news or more strange news 35 00:01:49,069 --> 00:01:46,560 weekly strange news 36 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:49,079 and uh Mysteries with the history and 37 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:52,560 and so much more uh very busy college 38 00:01:59,149 --> 00:01:56,460 student getting it done and uh through 39 00:02:00,710 --> 00:01:59,159 all of that of course hanging out with 40 00:02:02,450 --> 00:02:00,720 us and the rest of the fader knots in 41 00:02:04,969 --> 00:02:02,460 the UFO Community the Paranormal 42 00:02:06,410 --> 00:02:04,979 Community the supernatural community and 43 00:02:09,469 --> 00:02:06,420 for her it's the pug wedgie Community 44 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:09,479 Christina welcome back to fade to black 45 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:12,480 how you doing thank you Jimmy like I had 46 00:02:16,850 --> 00:02:14,520 told you backstage or like how you had 47 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:16,860 told me backstage long time no see it 48 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:19,200 feels like forever and for people that 49 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:21,120 don't know we co-host a show together 50 00:02:26,930 --> 00:02:24,660 every single Thursday on my channel and 51 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:26,940 so I just saw him like two hours ago you 52 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:28,680 know it's so funny thank you for all of 53 00:02:33,229 --> 00:02:31,620 that Christina and uh every Thursday I 54 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:33,239 get up and 55 00:02:38,330 --> 00:02:35,520 um and I you know I look forward to our 56 00:02:42,050 --> 00:02:38,340 day but that is uh Thursdays are a very 57 00:02:44,809 --> 00:02:42,060 busy day you know uh we do your show uh 58 00:02:46,910 --> 00:02:44,819 I'm doing the live news uh and then I 59 00:02:48,610 --> 00:02:46,920 roll into Fade to Black and it's is 60 00:02:51,410 --> 00:02:48,620 back-to-back content 61 00:02:52,610 --> 00:02:51,420 on Thursdays it's a very busy day but I 62 00:02:56,089 --> 00:02:52,620 just look forward to such a cool 63 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:56,099 Challenge and like today 64 00:03:01,369 --> 00:02:58,560 um we did your show 65 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:01,379 um and ran up to four o'clock you and I 66 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:04,260 talked backstage after that and I had 67 00:03:10,430 --> 00:03:06,540 already had this the news scheduled for 68 00:03:12,050 --> 00:03:10,440 4 15. you and I stopped talking at 4 20. 69 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:12,060 I literally 70 00:03:19,570 --> 00:03:15,720 stop that and and hit go live and rolled 71 00:03:22,610 --> 00:03:19,580 into that I've got this like whoo man 72 00:03:25,130 --> 00:03:22,620 and uh I just love Thursdays it's uh 73 00:03:27,710 --> 00:03:25,140 it's just it's so it's another day for 74 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:27,720 you all you do is uh content creation 75 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:31,680 and you're constantly uh doing stuff but 76 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:33,840 uh really quick I want to say 77 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:36,060 um uh happy holidays to everybody we are 78 00:03:44,330 --> 00:03:39,300 now rolling into firmly planted both 79 00:03:47,390 --> 00:03:44,340 feet in 2023 and although you and I did 80 00:03:49,850 --> 00:03:47,400 our first show of 2023 together earlier 81 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:49,860 today today is our first show on Fade to 82 00:03:55,729 --> 00:03:53,280 Black together uh with you so yeah and 83 00:03:59,570 --> 00:03:55,739 uh been dealing with the weather 84 00:04:02,690 --> 00:03:59,580 um I don't know where you are at but 85 00:04:06,170 --> 00:04:02,700 um because you run in clandestine mode 86 00:04:08,570 --> 00:04:06,180 but uh I I I'm sure the weather out 87 00:04:11,570 --> 00:04:08,580 there is is starting to trip out like it 88 00:04:13,729 --> 00:04:11,580 is out here getting a lot of snow and I 89 00:04:15,949 --> 00:04:13,739 I love snow with all of my heart because 90 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:15,959 with snow I get to watch the TV show 91 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:18,060 Father Ted and have hot chocolate and 92 00:04:21,890 --> 00:04:20,760 popcorn like that is my ritual what I 93 00:04:25,249 --> 00:04:21,900 see snow 94 00:04:29,090 --> 00:04:25,259 what are you uh let me let me ask when 95 00:04:30,490 --> 00:04:29,100 okay so Father Ted which uh you turned 96 00:04:34,370 --> 00:04:30,500 me on too 97 00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:34,380 good what else do you watch uh do you 98 00:04:39,469 --> 00:04:36,840 watch other TV programming I honestly 99 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:39,479 hardly have any time to watch television 100 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:42,180 or movies it's like a little grace 101 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:44,280 period for me if I'm even given the 102 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:46,080 opportunity to watch any type of 103 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:50,220 Television but for those that like Irish 104 00:04:55,249 --> 00:04:52,860 humor Father Ted is gonna be your 105 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:55,259 favorite TV show of all time that's a 106 00:05:00,890 --> 00:04:57,620 very small community 107 00:05:02,810 --> 00:05:00,900 well we we can grow that Community gym 108 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:02,820 yeah getting more people involved 109 00:05:08,030 --> 00:05:06,180 because it's great yeah Father Ted 110 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:08,040 um you know what I'm watching right now 111 00:05:12,770 --> 00:05:10,620 I'm in the middle of and I'm really 112 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:12,780 digging it I know this is gonna sound 113 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:15,960 strange Disney's 114 00:05:22,249 --> 00:05:19,080 National Treasure they've got a TV 115 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:22,259 series out now no way and you remember 116 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:27,120 the uh Nicholas Cage uh the first one 117 00:05:31,550 --> 00:05:29,759 was really good uh yeah but the first 118 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:31,560 one was really good 119 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:35,820 um so yes uh now this is Nicholas Cage 120 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:38,160 is not in this this is a bunch of uh 121 00:05:41,210 --> 00:05:39,960 Disney kids 122 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:41,220 but it's actually 123 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:45,120 really really really good and they're in 124 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:47,160 this I don't you find out in the first 125 00:05:53,090 --> 00:05:50,639 episode I think I'm on episode seven or 126 00:05:53,689 --> 00:05:53,100 yeah you know it's weekly 127 00:05:56,330 --> 00:05:53,699 um 128 00:05:58,090 --> 00:05:56,340 the Mayan codexes 129 00:06:00,650 --> 00:05:58,100 and that's what they're putting together 130 00:06:03,650 --> 00:06:00,660 you know the and there's four of them 131 00:06:05,810 --> 00:06:03,660 and they're searching for those and the 132 00:06:07,370 --> 00:06:05,820 weirdest thing about this a couple of 133 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:07,380 episodes ago I couldn't believe this 134 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:10,080 they went to Graceland Elvis Presley's 135 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:12,300 house because apparently there was a 136 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:16,080 clue left by Elvis before he died at 137 00:06:20,270 --> 00:06:17,820 Graceland so they had to go to great and 138 00:06:22,850 --> 00:06:20,280 I thought wow so I got Mayans 139 00:06:24,650 --> 00:06:22,860 and Elvis Presley what what is not to 140 00:06:26,809 --> 00:06:24,660 love about National Treasure so 141 00:06:28,129 --> 00:06:26,819 everybody should go check it out it's 142 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:28,139 good fun 143 00:06:33,710 --> 00:06:31,860 it sounds uh what was that kid's book 144 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:33,720 that was full of like really bizarre 145 00:06:38,749 --> 00:06:35,400 Mysteries it was a brother and a sister 146 00:06:44,450 --> 00:06:41,930 that was Every Kid's book 147 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:44,460 well it sounds it sounds like that and 148 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:46,319 it's just like a wax door you get all 149 00:06:50,330 --> 00:06:48,960 these weird combinations of mysteries 150 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:50,340 you put it in a book and then everyone 151 00:06:55,129 --> 00:06:52,560 loves it but I I haven't I haven't 152 00:06:58,930 --> 00:06:55,139 watched that on Disney it sounds 153 00:07:06,170 --> 00:07:02,930 it's really good it's look it's campy 154 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:06,180 there's no potty mouth languages there's 155 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:07,979 nothing to do you know there's no drug 156 00:07:12,409 --> 00:07:10,440 use there's and in other words it's the 157 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:12,419 opposite of America right so you don't 158 00:07:19,969 --> 00:07:16,319 have it's like this storybook uh version 159 00:07:22,850 --> 00:07:19,979 uh painting of of the youth today but 160 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:22,860 anyway it's John John says Magic Tree 161 00:07:29,089 --> 00:07:24,960 House I think that is that is the book 162 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:29,099 series yes of course yeah yeah who did 163 00:07:40,969 --> 00:07:29,940 that 164 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:40,979 um I I don't know how much I don't 165 00:07:45,230 --> 00:07:42,720 remember much either 166 00:07:49,309 --> 00:07:45,240 um going back when I first had you on as 167 00:07:51,770 --> 00:07:49,319 a guest uh here on Fade to Black but 168 00:07:55,790 --> 00:07:51,780 um one of the things I want to visit 169 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:55,800 your attitude from back then because 170 00:08:01,850 --> 00:07:57,440 um I remember 171 00:08:04,670 --> 00:08:01,860 asking you uh your opinions on a few 172 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:04,680 different UFO cases and UFOs in general 173 00:08:08,809 --> 00:08:06,960 and you were Adam and you're like man my 174 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:08,819 opinion doesn't matter I'm not giving 175 00:08:16,010 --> 00:08:11,599 you my opinion on nothing 176 00:08:18,469 --> 00:08:16,020 how has that changed today it seems to 177 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:18,479 me from the outside looking in I can't 178 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:21,599 stop your opinions now what what has 179 00:08:26,570 --> 00:08:24,479 changed that is not true what has 180 00:08:29,210 --> 00:08:26,580 changed there there you go 181 00:08:31,610 --> 00:08:29,220 um what has changed uh between now and 182 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:31,620 then so there's no real change in the 183 00:08:36,949 --> 00:08:34,380 aspect of if someone asks for my opinion 184 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:36,959 I'm kind of like I don't like giving my 185 00:08:40,810 --> 00:08:38,820 opinion because even today I've only 186 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:40,820 been doing research for about two years 187 00:08:46,010 --> 00:08:43,919 in the topics of The Unexplained which 188 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:46,020 originally started with UFOs and it 189 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:48,540 sprouted out into everything else that I 190 00:08:53,150 --> 00:08:50,940 didn't expect two years ago but when it 191 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:53,160 comes to opinions they're consistently 192 00:08:57,769 --> 00:08:55,800 changing with every new book every new 193 00:09:02,810 --> 00:08:57,779 documentary every new article I come 194 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:02,820 across so while I am better at piecing 195 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:04,740 stories together that I have done 196 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:06,540 through research especially with the 197 00:09:09,710 --> 00:09:08,100 shows that we have done on Mysteries 198 00:09:12,710 --> 00:09:09,720 with the history which is a 199 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:12,720 which we we focus on one specific topic 200 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:14,880 per show for what's been like a year and 201 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:17,180 a little bit now which is insane 202 00:09:23,090 --> 00:09:19,980 I'm I'm able to 203 00:09:25,850 --> 00:09:23,100 add into a conversation but when when it 204 00:09:27,889 --> 00:09:25,860 comes to opinions I still am not too 205 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:27,899 fond of sharing those 206 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:29,720 stick with the facts 207 00:09:37,150 --> 00:09:34,260 okay but that's on your show 208 00:09:42,530 --> 00:09:37,160 this you are now a guest on 209 00:09:43,790 --> 00:09:42,540 my show and this is where I ask your 210 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:43,800 opinion 211 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:46,260 see you don't get to use that you can't 212 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:48,720 use that as a pass card to get out of uh 213 00:09:53,389 --> 00:09:50,880 of a question now 214 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:53,399 um because your opinion does matter and 215 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:55,200 and and here we're trying to figure out 216 00:10:02,110 --> 00:09:57,140 things about you 217 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:02,120 so with that what's your opinion on uh 218 00:10:06,530 --> 00:10:04,560 on Pock wedgies are the absolute best 219 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:06,540 cryptid on the planet right right now 220 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:08,220 see that's not an opinion now we're 221 00:10:14,650 --> 00:10:09,620 getting into facts 222 00:10:18,730 --> 00:10:14,660 those are facts there you go do you 223 00:10:23,870 --> 00:10:18,740 uh do you believe 224 00:10:26,930 --> 00:10:23,880 that we are being visited right now as 225 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:26,940 you and I talk right right now by an 226 00:10:32,750 --> 00:10:29,519 extraterrestrial civilization from out 227 00:10:37,570 --> 00:10:34,670 find it to that possibility especially 228 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:37,580 with so many contacty and experiencer 229 00:10:43,490 --> 00:10:40,080 comments and stories that have been 230 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:43,500 relayed over the centuries really and 231 00:10:46,370 --> 00:10:44,760 now more than ever with the internet 232 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:46,380 that we have 233 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:49,740 people are more easily able to express 234 00:10:54,350 --> 00:10:52,440 their stories and their encounters and 235 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:54,360 it seems like a lot of them maybe not 236 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:56,880 all of them but a lot of them truly 237 00:11:01,670 --> 00:10:59,279 believe that they're being contacted by 238 00:11:03,769 --> 00:11:01,680 extraterrestrials that which in that 239 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:03,779 title defines that they're not from this 240 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:07,920 planet and is that possible absolutely I 241 00:11:13,490 --> 00:11:10,680 don't see why not but I think that the 242 00:11:18,410 --> 00:11:13,500 universe is teeming with life 243 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:18,420 so okay okay okay but open to the 244 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:20,940 possibility we're all open to the 245 00:11:26,750 --> 00:11:22,160 possibility 246 00:11:28,610 --> 00:11:26,760 I'm asking you do you believe it's like 247 00:11:31,490 --> 00:11:28,620 a yes or no question are we being 248 00:11:32,750 --> 00:11:31,500 visited today by extraterrestrials or 249 00:11:34,730 --> 00:11:32,760 not 250 00:11:36,170 --> 00:11:34,740 because I don't have that information in 251 00:11:39,290 --> 00:11:36,180 front of me I don't have the data I 252 00:11:42,889 --> 00:11:39,300 simply cannot give an answer on that but 253 00:11:45,050 --> 00:11:42,899 there is life that could be so much 254 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:45,060 older than us that could be visiting us 255 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:47,040 that could have the most advanced 256 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:48,720 technology to where they don't have to 257 00:11:52,910 --> 00:11:50,700 travel at light speed but can use 258 00:11:56,509 --> 00:11:52,920 portals and wormholes to travel from 259 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:56,519 point A to point B but that answer you 260 00:12:00,050 --> 00:11:58,260 can apply to every question that I'm 261 00:12:02,750 --> 00:12:00,060 going to ask tonight 262 00:12:07,790 --> 00:12:02,760 see it's gonna be a fun night yeah it is 263 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:07,800 it is and so uh how did do you think 264 00:12:14,449 --> 00:12:11,519 that uh there was 265 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:14,459 some other assistance in building the 266 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:16,260 Great Pyramid or do you think that the 267 00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:18,959 Egyptians just did it on their own 268 00:12:25,310 --> 00:12:21,720 willy-nilly 269 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:25,320 so when it comes to the Great Pyramids 270 00:12:28,970 --> 00:12:27,600 of Egypt and a few other pyramids across 271 00:12:31,310 --> 00:12:28,980 the globe 272 00:12:33,769 --> 00:12:31,320 in the time period that it was created 273 00:12:36,410 --> 00:12:33,779 in it makes you take a step back in 274 00:12:42,050 --> 00:12:36,420 question did just humans 275 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:42,060 create this and when I looked into and 276 00:12:46,670 --> 00:12:44,160 now the Temple's escaping me but it was 277 00:12:48,610 --> 00:12:46,680 one in Mexico the one that's dedicated 278 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:48,620 to the serpent God 279 00:12:53,870 --> 00:12:52,260 I can't eat pizza is it that one well 280 00:12:57,530 --> 00:12:53,880 I'm not sure well anyways at the 281 00:13:00,670 --> 00:12:57,540 entrance of uh getting into to look at 282 00:13:04,190 --> 00:13:00,680 the pyramid it literally said in Spanish 283 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:04,200 this Temple was not made by aliens like 284 00:13:08,990 --> 00:13:05,760 right when you enter and purchase your 285 00:13:11,569 --> 00:13:09,000 tickets and while you have a lot of 286 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:11,579 archaeologists that think that Humanity 287 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:14,399 made these things with time and effort 288 00:13:19,610 --> 00:13:17,040 there are those very specifically in our 289 00:13:21,710 --> 00:13:19,620 community in the UFO field 290 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:21,720 that think that 291 00:13:28,970 --> 00:13:24,600 with the time that it took the Manpower 292 00:13:32,750 --> 00:13:28,980 that it required it seems almost 293 00:13:36,410 --> 00:13:32,760 difficult to believe but human Ingenuity 294 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:36,420 and the ability to invent right they it 295 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:39,720 it do amazing things so I don't ignore 296 00:13:44,509 --> 00:13:41,940 that fact where 297 00:13:47,449 --> 00:13:44,519 um ancient Mysteries are concerned is it 298 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:47,459 aliens I'm not sure but I'm open-minded 299 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:51,420 to that possibility as well now okay and 300 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:54,120 this is where I find this subject really 301 00:13:58,250 --> 00:13:56,279 really fascinating 302 00:14:00,650 --> 00:13:58,260 um because 303 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:00,660 I don't think it was aliens either I 304 00:14:03,949 --> 00:14:02,519 mean impossible everything's possible 305 00:14:05,449 --> 00:14:03,959 but 306 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:05,459 somebody 307 00:14:12,110 --> 00:14:10,320 with knowledge on how to do these things 308 00:14:13,790 --> 00:14:12,120 it's the engineering it's the coring 309 00:14:15,530 --> 00:14:13,800 it's the carving it's the cutting it's 310 00:14:17,629 --> 00:14:15,540 the movement it's the transportation 311 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:17,639 it's all of that and then you have all 312 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:21,360 of the math and and uh the archaea uh 313 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:24,540 the uh architecture side of it where 314 00:14:27,949 --> 00:14:25,860 you're building these things you know 315 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:27,959 pointing in a specific Direction and how 316 00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:30,660 do you level the the ground all of that 317 00:14:36,949 --> 00:14:33,660 right is it seems that 318 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:36,959 somebody was instructing right somebody 319 00:14:40,850 --> 00:14:39,420 was teaching somebody was showing where 320 00:14:43,610 --> 00:14:40,860 did they come from 321 00:14:45,769 --> 00:14:43,620 and is it possible you know without 322 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:45,779 going into Atlantis or something but was 323 00:14:51,710 --> 00:14:47,940 there another civilization roaming the 324 00:14:54,050 --> 00:14:51,720 Earth uh that survived that was Advanced 325 00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:54,060 and then they come across a culture like 326 00:14:58,610 --> 00:14:56,940 the Egyptians or Mesopotamia and you go 327 00:14:59,689 --> 00:14:58,620 into ancient Sumer and you see where 328 00:15:01,790 --> 00:14:59,699 they're at and they're going you know 329 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:01,800 what here this is how you build a good 330 00:15:06,829 --> 00:15:02,760 road 331 00:15:10,370 --> 00:15:06,839 this is how you do some math this is how 332 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:10,380 this is some engineering techniques 333 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:12,180 um that's what I think went on 334 00:15:17,329 --> 00:15:14,220 well when we look at some of the 335 00:15:19,730 --> 00:15:17,339 sculptures that have been depicted in 336 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:19,740 Mesopotamia and looking at what are now 337 00:15:25,129 --> 00:15:22,560 classified as the Anunnaki there are so 338 00:15:26,329 --> 00:15:25,139 many specialists in the field that look 339 00:15:31,449 --> 00:15:26,339 at these 340 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:31,459 Giants that have those perfect 341 00:15:38,689 --> 00:15:34,800 rectangular beards are carrying a pine 342 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:38,699 cone and a handbag is that as if they're 343 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:41,160 passing their ancient alien knowledge 344 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:43,040 over to humanity 345 00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:47,040 is that a possibility I think it is 346 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:50,160 um but with what you stated I wonder the 347 00:15:55,370 --> 00:15:52,500 exact same thing a civilization that 348 00:15:57,650 --> 00:15:55,380 existed during the Ice Age on the 349 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:57,660 equator tropical zones which are now 350 00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:01,199 underwater why not it would make sense 351 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:04,440 for a lot of the strange mysteries from 352 00:16:11,210 --> 00:16:07,760 the past to be buried with those ruins 353 00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:11,220 and as we know only what 15 to 20 354 00:16:15,949 --> 00:16:13,680 percent of our ocean have been mapped 355 00:16:19,370 --> 00:16:15,959 scanned and discovered that still leaves 356 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:19,380 80 percent totally in the unknown so not 357 00:16:23,629 --> 00:16:21,360 only is the ocean a total Monster Soup 358 00:16:25,790 --> 00:16:23,639 we have no idea what monsters live in 359 00:16:29,689 --> 00:16:25,800 there but also there's a lot of 360 00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:29,699 potential lost human history that are 361 00:16:33,949 --> 00:16:31,500 beneath our oceans 362 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:33,959 so when you enter the plaza at the 363 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:36,480 Vatican right and you're now on the 364 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:39,240 Vatican property at Giant Plaza in the 365 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:41,279 center of the statute guess what the 366 00:16:45,949 --> 00:16:43,380 statue is of 367 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:45,959 I think you said it's a pine cone a pine 368 00:16:54,050 --> 00:16:47,040 cone 369 00:16:57,470 --> 00:16:54,060 right it's like explain that's all I 370 00:17:00,769 --> 00:16:57,480 just I just need some help why why that 371 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:00,779 you know it's not it's not Jesus you 372 00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:04,799 know it's not that uh it's it it's a 373 00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:07,260 pine cone yeah it's it's that's pretty 374 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:11,339 weird it's uh it's very strange so if we 375 00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:13,740 um go with this pine cone and the purses 376 00:17:21,470 --> 00:17:18,959 right those purses have been seen on I 377 00:17:23,809 --> 00:17:21,480 believe every continent maybe except for 378 00:17:25,850 --> 00:17:23,819 Antarctica but that's next 379 00:17:26,929 --> 00:17:25,860 um those purses have been on every 380 00:17:29,810 --> 00:17:26,939 continent 381 00:17:32,330 --> 00:17:29,820 what do you think is in them 382 00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:32,340 from the research that I've done I know 383 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:33,900 that we talked about this in the 384 00:17:39,409 --> 00:17:36,480 mysteries of India where we talked about 385 00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:39,419 handbags as well and Shiva carrying one 386 00:17:43,070 --> 00:17:41,039 of those handbags 387 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,080 um one of the Gods of the trimorety for 388 00:17:47,690 --> 00:17:45,360 those that may not be familiar with it 389 00:17:50,210 --> 00:17:47,700 you're right it is consistent across 390 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:50,220 cultures and the question is why what 391 00:17:55,730 --> 00:17:52,440 does it represent is it just carrying 392 00:17:58,909 --> 00:17:55,740 some cosmetics in a snack or is it care 393 00:18:02,150 --> 00:17:58,919 or is it more symbolic of it's passing 394 00:18:04,610 --> 00:18:02,160 down knowledge like some people assume 395 00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:04,620 that have looked into these ancient 396 00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:08,039 sculptures for decades we're still in 397 00:18:14,210 --> 00:18:11,400 that mode of speculation and anyone 398 00:18:15,950 --> 00:18:14,220 claims that they have the answers sorry 399 00:18:18,830 --> 00:18:15,960 to break it to you but they don't 400 00:18:21,169 --> 00:18:18,840 they're merely speculating they there 401 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:21,179 isn't any book that states for a fact 402 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:25,020 what those bags entail but I think that 403 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:26,960 because it's being 404 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:30,120 portrayed across cultures hopefully it 405 00:18:35,210 --> 00:18:32,400 would have a universal meaning and I 406 00:18:37,789 --> 00:18:35,220 would like to think that it is passing 407 00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:37,799 down knowledge more so than just a nice 408 00:18:45,289 --> 00:18:40,860 accessory to add to your deities yeah 409 00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:45,299 yeah for sure but they are a really they 410 00:18:52,130 --> 00:18:47,520 are accessorized uh pretty nice I mean 411 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:52,140 the hair the Beards uh the clothing uh 412 00:18:58,970 --> 00:18:54,360 nice shoes too as well but that bag 413 00:19:01,310 --> 00:18:58,980 stands out and when we look at uh and 414 00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:01,320 certainly through your research 415 00:19:08,570 --> 00:19:04,860 um when we look at the timing of these 416 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:08,580 uh carvings this art this wall art 417 00:19:16,430 --> 00:19:12,720 um that's one thing and the Anunnaki and 418 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:16,440 that story and sitchin's version of the 419 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:20,700 Anunnaki were going back 200 to 400 000 420 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:23,340 years right so that's that's that's a 421 00:19:27,529 --> 00:19:24,480 long time 422 00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:27,539 and we need to leave that part for 423 00:19:35,810 --> 00:19:30,120 another conversation but if we talk 424 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,820 about those handbags at 3000 BC 2000 BC 425 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:37,200 that's a long time ago it's five 426 00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:38,700 thousand years four thousand years right 427 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:43,039 and then we go to go back Lee Tepe 428 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:46,140 yeah and that's what the you know five 429 00:19:52,310 --> 00:19:49,500 to seven thousand year Gap and that's 430 00:19:55,789 --> 00:19:52,320 not a coincidence isn't it uh is it so 431 00:20:00,049 --> 00:19:55,799 what what could possibly because they 432 00:20:02,930 --> 00:20:00,059 are depicted exactly the same which is 433 00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:02,940 another really weird detail while we are 434 00:20:08,930 --> 00:20:05,820 aware that across cultures their style 435 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:08,940 differs especially during time periods 436 00:20:14,270 --> 00:20:11,220 as well but when we look at the handbags 437 00:20:16,010 --> 00:20:14,280 it's a very simplistic rectangle and 438 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:16,020 then a little handle which is a 439 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:17,400 semi-circle and that's all you're 440 00:20:23,090 --> 00:20:20,100 getting there isn't from what I've seen 441 00:20:25,370 --> 00:20:23,100 there isn't any details 442 00:20:29,210 --> 00:20:25,380 etched into the handbag it's very 443 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:29,220 simplistic and the question is why why 444 00:20:33,409 --> 00:20:30,840 are all of these cultures and different 445 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:33,419 points in time creating the exact same 446 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:36,240 thing when people believe that there 447 00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:38,580 wasn't any communication between 448 00:20:42,049 --> 00:20:40,500 countries on different parts of the 449 00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:42,059 world opposite ends 450 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,460 now could there have been communication 451 00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:46,320 on opposite ends of the world in a time 452 00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:47,460 period where we didn't think that was 453 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:48,660 possible 454 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,260 maybe and then we can go from there and 455 00:20:56,330 --> 00:20:54,000 do all this speculation and even jump 456 00:20:58,970 --> 00:20:56,340 into conspiracy theories but when 457 00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:58,980 looking at the handbags 458 00:21:04,669 --> 00:21:01,440 um it could have even been regarded to 459 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:04,679 trade or how they were able to get these 460 00:21:08,210 --> 00:21:06,360 depictions could have been from a 461 00:21:10,250 --> 00:21:08,220 passing of Knowledge from one culture to 462 00:21:14,990 --> 00:21:10,260 another through trade or old 463 00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:15,000 civilizations doing trade as well so I 464 00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:17,160 think it's really interesting that all 465 00:21:22,930 --> 00:21:19,260 of these handbags are super simple 466 00:21:25,870 --> 00:21:22,940 they're they're they're not these 467 00:21:28,190 --> 00:21:25,880 delicate Exquisite 468 00:21:30,049 --> 00:21:28,200 handbags that you would assume with the 469 00:21:33,529 --> 00:21:30,059 other carvings that have been presented 470 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,539 right next to those handbags but I think 471 00:21:37,549 --> 00:21:35,520 that there needs to be at least on my 472 00:21:39,310 --> 00:21:37,559 behalf more research done on those 473 00:21:42,649 --> 00:21:39,320 things 474 00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:42,659 the the stuff that's around the world 475 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:45,720 and and today we did a lot of Aboriginal 476 00:21:51,169 --> 00:21:47,700 discussion too as well you know we're 477 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:51,179 talking about 30 40 50 000 years old uh 478 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:53,700 that culture there in Australia but when 479 00:22:00,529 --> 00:21:57,059 we look around the world we can see 480 00:22:02,090 --> 00:22:00,539 uh the ancient stuff and it it exists 481 00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:02,100 everywhere and you think about what's 482 00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:05,400 going on uh not only in the Middle East 483 00:22:11,090 --> 00:22:07,799 and Egypt and Iraq and Syria and Jordan 484 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:11,100 and and Israel but we've got China we've 485 00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:14,640 got Russia we've got Japan uh where old 486 00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:16,260 established things are there and you can 487 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:19,020 go and see them but we 488 00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:23,039 um we are finding out now that North 489 00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:26,220 America Central and South America you 490 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:28,440 know certainly there but North America 491 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,260 there was never nothing to see here 492 00:22:36,649 --> 00:22:34,320 right there was not there was just and 493 00:22:39,850 --> 00:22:36,659 it's turning out to be one of the most 494 00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:39,860 interesting places to go and see things 495 00:22:45,470 --> 00:22:43,860 right here in in the good old USFA 496 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:45,480 you're absolutely right I mean look at 497 00:22:50,090 --> 00:22:48,120 Yosemite Park that's amazing 498 00:22:52,610 --> 00:22:50,100 we can look at the Grand Canyon we can 499 00:22:54,649 --> 00:22:52,620 look at the Great Lakes we can even just 500 00:22:57,409 --> 00:22:54,659 go to Washington as a whole because 501 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:57,419 that's just entirely Bigfoot country you 502 00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:00,720 can go to Maine and get that incredible 503 00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:03,120 snow but also some interesting types of 504 00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:04,799 Cryptids and UFO sightings and 505 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:07,559 paranormal encounters as well you can go 506 00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:10,799 to the the the central of America and 507 00:23:15,649 --> 00:23:13,380 it's just flat land but incredible for 508 00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:15,659 farming so you're absolutely right when 509 00:23:21,049 --> 00:23:17,820 it comes to the States you have anything 510 00:23:23,169 --> 00:23:21,059 and everything and there's a lot of 511 00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:23,179 myths and legends regarding the land 512 00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:27,360 yeah well you've got Serpent Mound which 513 00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:29,220 is crazy and it's not the only Serpent 514 00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:30,900 Mound you know there's many but The 515 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:32,940 Serpent Mound in Ohio is absolutely 516 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,120 incredible but when you um when you go 517 00:23:42,169 --> 00:23:39,600 uh to an ancient site certainly you know 518 00:23:45,169 --> 00:23:42,179 Egypt comes to mind for everybody and 519 00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:45,179 you look at the hieroglyph uh carvings 520 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:48,900 and and the amazement of that and then 521 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,440 you go to say Laughlin Nevada 522 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:54,320 and right there right outside of town 523 00:24:01,130 --> 00:23:59,520 are 20 25 100 year old petroglyphs and 524 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:01,140 they still don't even really know how 525 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:03,539 old they are carved into this Canyon 526 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,480 there's hundreds of them and you go and 527 00:24:10,510 --> 00:24:07,919 you look at that it's right here it's 528 00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:10,520 right here in the United States some 529 00:24:18,770 --> 00:24:14,400 ancient indigenous culture carve that 530 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:21,890 yeah you're you're you're right and it 531 00:24:26,990 --> 00:24:24,360 goes to show that as you had mentioned 532 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:27,000 when it comes to looking at the United 533 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:29,100 States it's a little bit more ancient 534 00:24:34,010 --> 00:24:31,080 Than People expect there's so many 535 00:24:35,270 --> 00:24:34,020 Mysteries that are taking place right 536 00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:35,280 here and while it might not be 537 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:38,400 classified as an old country it does 538 00:24:44,890 --> 00:24:41,340 still have that intense history like 539 00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:44,900 every other country does 540 00:24:52,610 --> 00:24:49,020 Chaco Canyon right the Anasazi oh my 541 00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:52,620 gosh yes right you know and if you want 542 00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:54,840 it we could talk about the Anunnaki and 543 00:24:59,210 --> 00:24:57,240 Sumerian Tablets in ancient history and 544 00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,220 altering of DNA we could talk about all 545 00:25:04,430 --> 00:25:01,440 that it's a great story 546 00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:04,440 and then you've got Chaco Canyon right 547 00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:07,860 here or the Anasazi said they came from 548 00:25:13,789 --> 00:25:10,140 the stars and they needed to go back and 549 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:13,799 they disappeared and Chaco Canyon is 550 00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:17,039 just as elegant as any megalithic site 551 00:25:22,130 --> 00:25:18,780 on the planet 552 00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:22,140 it is such a cool location the glyphs 553 00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:24,539 are incredible John Dover has done 554 00:25:30,169 --> 00:25:26,580 extensive research there he's a retired 555 00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:30,179 Navajo Ranger I am aware there was a 556 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:32,520 episode and I haven't seen it in so long 557 00:25:35,690 --> 00:25:34,260 but there was an episode I believe it 558 00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:35,700 was on 559 00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:40,380 but there was a researcher that went 560 00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:43,559 into choco Canyon and was able to 561 00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:47,039 to measure a time dilation right there 562 00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:49,559 it was off by like 0.2 seconds 0.3 563 00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:51,539 seconds or something like that between 564 00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:55,740 just in inside inside of where this play 565 00:26:01,549 --> 00:25:58,740 this town was and then just outside of 566 00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,559 it and I found that really interesting 567 00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:03,360 because time should not be able to 568 00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:05,820 fluctuate like that right next to each 569 00:26:10,669 --> 00:26:08,700 other just actually in general but I I 570 00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:10,679 don't know if you know what TV show I'm 571 00:26:15,529 --> 00:26:13,620 talking about but it stuck with me but 572 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:15,539 the faces are blurry 573 00:26:21,409 --> 00:26:19,380 now when you another curious thing that 574 00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:21,419 I have uh you've been you've been at 575 00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:25,260 this now uh for a couple of years do you 576 00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:27,659 have a favorite UFO case 577 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:31,860 ah I do I do and and I've said this so 578 00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:33,539 many times on the show that we do 579 00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:37,320 together and that is the caloris Brazil 580 00:26:42,529 --> 00:26:40,620 incident in 1977. that one is my 581 00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:42,539 absolute favorite case 582 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,260 and why well the reason to that was it's 583 00:26:54,490 --> 00:26:52,080 one it's probably the only story that 584 00:26:59,330 --> 00:26:54,500 I've come across so far 585 00:27:01,789 --> 00:26:59,340 where you have a mass sighting for six 586 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:01,799 months every single night at the exact 587 00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:04,500 same time between seven and eight pm 588 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,679 multiple people get injured two people 589 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,320 die because of these encounters because 590 00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:13,200 of these craft that are visiting this 591 00:27:21,529 --> 00:27:17,120 very small fishing town in Brazil and 592 00:27:23,649 --> 00:27:21,539 Jimmy we've covered so many cases so 593 00:27:27,289 --> 00:27:23,659 many cases I've spoken to so many people 594 00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:27,299 and the caloris incident it just it 595 00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:29,580 there's just something so unique about 596 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,220 it and 597 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:34,320 for those I don't know I'll give you a 598 00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:37,620 brief summary on it and what happened 599 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:40,640 was for the first month or so back in 600 00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:43,860 1977 these this small fishing town 601 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,799 kolaris they were being terrorized by 602 00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:49,440 these craft that were coming every 603 00:27:54,409 --> 00:27:52,320 single night to the point where they 604 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,419 would they would never go out by 605 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,159 themselves they would go with groups of 606 00:28:01,070 --> 00:27:58,559 people and then they would sleep in the 607 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,080 same home a bunch of people sleeping in 608 00:28:06,289 --> 00:28:03,600 the same house and it was getting so 609 00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:06,299 intense that the mayor had to contact 610 00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:09,120 the capital Brasilia to say hey bring 611 00:28:14,269 --> 00:28:11,640 your military officials we're having an 612 00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:14,279 issue and we need protection but also we 613 00:28:19,149 --> 00:28:16,140 need some answers 614 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:19,159 so the military come in from the Capitol 615 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:23,940 and the town folk they expected for 616 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:26,720 these men to be carrying guns having 617 00:28:33,610 --> 00:28:29,760 grenades cannons I mean all these types 618 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:33,620 of weapons but they came with paper 619 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:36,720 pencils and some cameras 620 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:39,360 and so they were there to document all 621 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,640 of this which ended up becoming uh which 622 00:28:46,570 --> 00:28:44,640 ended up being called operation saucer 623 00:28:50,169 --> 00:28:46,580 operation Plato 624 00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:50,179 and with that there's 625 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,620 thousands of 626 00:28:56,390 --> 00:28:54,720 um witness testimonies that have been 627 00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:56,400 released through foia back in the early 628 00:29:02,090 --> 00:28:59,580 2000s uh thanks to 629 00:29:04,970 --> 00:29:02,100 um AJ he just passed and it was because 630 00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:04,980 of him we were able to have these 631 00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:07,919 um witness accounts along with drawings 632 00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:10,679 that were created by the military 633 00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:15,539 officials and then in 1997 the captain 634 00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:18,120 of the operation 635 00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:20,059 um and his captain 636 00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:23,460 Lima and there's orangelima I remember 637 00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:28,140 his name he spoke to AJ and his um other 638 00:29:33,169 --> 00:29:30,179 companion for UFO magazine the only 639 00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:33,179 magazine at the time in Brazil and he 640 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:36,179 stated that not only were we 641 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,520 researching and investigating this 642 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:41,279 encounter for several months in the same 643 00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:44,159 location every single day but myself 644 00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,240 personally says Lima I had my own 645 00:29:53,930 --> 00:29:50,640 encounter not only did I see these craft 646 00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:53,940 in the sky like everybody else but I had 647 00:30:00,769 --> 00:29:56,880 a close encounter where I was in my room 648 00:30:04,430 --> 00:30:00,779 one night and a small being about three 649 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:04,440 four feet tall wearing a silver suit 650 00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:07,080 hugged me from behind and said in a 651 00:30:15,710 --> 00:30:10,080 robotic Portuguese 652 00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:15,720 stating we mean you no harm just don't 653 00:30:19,970 --> 00:30:17,880 worry about it just relax and then it 654 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,980 disappeared 655 00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:23,039 I have not come across a story like that 656 00:30:28,909 --> 00:30:26,460 where you have the man operating the 657 00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:28,919 whole project publicly come out and 658 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,380 state that he had an encounter along 659 00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:34,080 with getting so many witness testimonies 660 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:36,620 which you can find at the black fold 661 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,140 drawings as well but if you attempt to 662 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:42,480 speak to the people in the town from my 663 00:30:47,570 --> 00:30:44,700 knowledge they won't speak about it they 664 00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:47,580 will not tell you the story and my 665 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:52,740 question is why it was so intense it was 666 00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,220 so impactful that maybe they find it too 667 00:31:00,409 --> 00:30:58,559 traumatizing to talk about because as I 668 00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:00,419 had mentioned a little bit earlier two 669 00:31:05,510 --> 00:31:03,000 died because these beams of light would 670 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:05,520 come down and they would place about 671 00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:08,760 three puncture wombs per victim to the 672 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,700 point where the locals called this beam 673 00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:14,399 of light and the craft Chupa Chupa which 674 00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:16,919 means sucker sucker and they believed 675 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:19,140 because it was a very uh Christian Town 676 00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:22,200 Catholic town excuse me that they were 677 00:31:27,710 --> 00:31:24,299 that their blood was being sucked out of 678 00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:27,720 them and that it was a demonic entity 679 00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:32,820 but when the only doctor of the area has 680 00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:35,520 only one clinic in this town she noticed 681 00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:38,100 that all of these Witnesses had three 682 00:31:43,789 --> 00:31:40,740 puncture wounds if they were male in the 683 00:31:45,710 --> 00:31:43,799 jugular area and if they were female in 684 00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:45,720 the chest area of course there were some 685 00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:48,240 in the thighs and uh in the like the the 686 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:49,980 stomach area as well but the most 687 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:52,980 prevalent were in the throat and in the 688 00:31:58,669 --> 00:31:55,919 chest exactly yeah in the chest and they 689 00:32:00,529 --> 00:31:58,679 they also said that beams of light would 690 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:00,539 come down and blast him in the chest too 691 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:03,120 as well how terrified when you hear the 692 00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:06,200 color Story how terrified 693 00:32:13,370 --> 00:32:11,220 uh would your family be if you couldn't 694 00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:13,380 go out at night because if you did you 695 00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:15,240 were getting hunted down by a flying 696 00:32:19,549 --> 00:32:17,640 saucer that was going to blast you I 697 00:32:21,289 --> 00:32:19,559 mean there's no words that's a crazy 698 00:32:24,289 --> 00:32:21,299 that's a crazy way to look 699 00:32:26,590 --> 00:32:24,299 um Lima uh when he did the interviews 700 00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:26,600 with AJ gavair 701 00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:31,080 he he he drew he did drawings he did 702 00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:32,760 drawings of his encounter he did 703 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,179 drawings of the ship and he what after 704 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,360 he did that they were uh um just when 705 00:32:43,730 --> 00:32:41,039 you see these were talking about he was 706 00:32:47,690 --> 00:32:43,740 like a a colonel or a captain 707 00:32:50,330 --> 00:32:47,700 um at the time uh what happened to Lima 708 00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,340 he allegedly committed suicide about two 709 00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:52,799 months after he did the interview with 710 00:32:59,630 --> 00:32:56,820 the UFO magazine but what's interesting 711 00:33:03,409 --> 00:32:59,640 about that case and Jimmy you and I have 712 00:33:07,490 --> 00:33:03,419 talked about it in detail is the 713 00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:07,500 situation in which it happened to him 714 00:33:12,049 --> 00:33:09,480 where he got a bathrobe and he tied it 715 00:33:15,169 --> 00:33:12,059 around his neck 716 00:33:20,509 --> 00:33:15,179 um it didn't fully make sense 717 00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,519 and Jimmy can you explain why no because 718 00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:23,519 you're my guest so let me go to the the 719 00:33:29,810 --> 00:33:26,340 next part of this though 720 00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:29,820 um if you look at and and I love the way 721 00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:33,600 that AJ uh did that interview with Lima 722 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:37,320 but it was Lima's demeanor there this 723 00:33:43,009 --> 00:33:38,940 wasn't a guy that was about to commit 724 00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:43,019 suicide right he he he didn't you know 725 00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:45,779 what I mean what did you think when you 726 00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:47,460 hear the reports of 727 00:33:53,649 --> 00:33:50,640 him committing suicide two months later 728 00:33:57,169 --> 00:33:53,659 the guy that's on camera 729 00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:57,179 looks pretty together doesn't he 730 00:34:02,029 --> 00:33:59,399 from my knowledge he does and there were 731 00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:02,039 other accounts of where people spoke to 732 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,380 those that were close to Lima and stated 733 00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:06,720 that he was a man that loved life and 734 00:34:14,329 --> 00:34:09,540 that he wasn't the type to take his own 735 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,339 but looking back at these witnesses that 736 00:34:19,070 --> 00:34:17,520 had these puncture wounds that went 737 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:19,080 through something that was so 738 00:34:24,290 --> 00:34:22,200 traumatizing I have to ask were they 739 00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,300 attacks or were they some form of 740 00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:26,879 medical scanning I mean if it was 741 00:34:32,450 --> 00:34:28,820 medical scanning and having those 742 00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:32,460 damaging physical effects just imagine 743 00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:36,419 if they meant to harm people yes it 744 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,359 seems brutal and inhumane but it's like 745 00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:42,240 the people were just cattle or Lab Rats 746 00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:45,000 potentially to these craft that were 747 00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:46,820 seen in the area 748 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,879 now the other part of this case 749 00:34:55,550 --> 00:34:53,760 there's a lot of uh a lot of video a lot 750 00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:55,560 of photographs a lot of data collected a 751 00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:57,720 lot of interviews a lot of things were 752 00:35:01,310 --> 00:34:59,880 done uh the doctor you just mentioned 753 00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:01,320 her name 754 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,660 um she was I I would consider her a 755 00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:06,000 whistleblower she was pissed off 756 00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:08,099 um she saw all of the stuff going on and 757 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:10,320 she was very verbal and went public with 758 00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:12,420 with everything but that's only a part 759 00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:16,380 of the the the the the case I think what 760 00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:19,740 was even more significant was the 761 00:35:26,569 --> 00:35:22,040 Brazilian militaries 762 00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:26,579 admitting of them having camped out on 763 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:29,339 these beaches with their video cameras 764 00:35:34,250 --> 00:35:32,280 for like two or three months and were 765 00:35:38,089 --> 00:35:34,260 out there all night every night 766 00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:38,099 capturing stuff in the skies that's a 767 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,160 that's a pretty big uh admission from 768 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:43,440 the Brazilian government don't you think 769 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:45,300 it definitely is and it makes you 770 00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:48,540 question why there are so many military 771 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:50,760 entities across the globe that would 772 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:53,760 keep that so Hush Hush why would the 773 00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,460 Brazilian government be more open about 774 00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,520 something like that it did take a long 775 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:02,400 time to receive that documentation where 776 00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:04,380 it is now public once again that took 777 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:07,920 place in 1977 we didn't receive not even 778 00:36:14,329 --> 00:36:12,180 half of the paperwork in what 2000 and 779 00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:14,339 two or three give or take the early 780 00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:18,660 2000s and there's still a lot that is 781 00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:21,960 placed in a cabinet somewhere yes we 782 00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:23,880 have a good amount is it sufficient 783 00:36:30,829 --> 00:36:28,260 it'll do for now but I think what I'm 784 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,839 most curious about is the ones that 785 00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,400 haven't been made public what 786 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:34,560 information is there that they think 787 00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,440 that the public cannot handle yeah we 788 00:36:40,849 --> 00:36:39,480 haven't seen any of the video that 789 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:40,859 they've that's right yeah we've only 790 00:36:45,890 --> 00:36:42,900 seen drawings and we've only gotten 791 00:36:49,069 --> 00:36:45,900 witness testimonies we have not seen the 792 00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:49,079 video and that is something that makes 793 00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:50,760 me question if you're going to give us 794 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:53,220 all this other stuff why not just bring 795 00:36:58,190 --> 00:36:55,260 over everything because having to filter 796 00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,200 through all of that data that you 797 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,200 collected for about four or five months 798 00:37:05,630 --> 00:37:03,839 that's a lot of work just just pass it 799 00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,640 on over to the public and we'll do that 800 00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:08,000 work for you don't even worry about it 801 00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:10,800 what is it about Brazil 802 00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,359 you know some of the most amazing uh 803 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:17,520 cases every country's got their own 804 00:37:24,349 --> 00:37:20,880 they're that's for sure but Brazil has 805 00:37:27,230 --> 00:37:24,359 got more than their fair share 806 00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:27,240 you think so I do 807 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,520 I do the 808 00:37:34,250 --> 00:37:31,920 um the documentary that came out was 809 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:34,260 Jacques valet about the 12 year old 810 00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,660 Brazilian boy 811 00:37:42,010 --> 00:37:39,599 um I'm trying to think when that came 812 00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:42,020 out oh that might have been Argentina 813 00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:44,520 uh what does it count if it's South 814 00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:45,839 America 815 00:37:56,589 --> 00:37:48,560 right absolutely but you have Virginia 816 00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:56,599 right right and uh the uh uh uh 817 00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:00,119 uh it's the case that just happened down 818 00:38:05,329 --> 00:38:03,240 there five years ago four years ago 819 00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:05,339 um started with an M oh I can't believe 820 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:07,880 I can't remember the name of the city 821 00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:10,020 I know it's what you're talking about 822 00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:13,020 and we covered it and now it is Phase 823 00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:14,160 Brazil 824 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,500 I don't know but I have my have my notes 825 00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,440 for that show yeah somebody just said it 826 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:21,119 was Argentina 827 00:38:27,410 --> 00:38:25,440 but but uh Brazil just seems to the the 828 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,420 cases 829 00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:29,040 um that they've had on there were were 830 00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:30,440 like 831 00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:33,660 Landings contact 832 00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:36,900 UM entities and then the United States 833 00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:39,440 Air Force coming in a major 834 00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:44,280 Brazil yeah thank you yeah yes yes Monte 835 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:45,240 Brazil 836 00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:47,160 um and then the United States steps in 837 00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:49,560 like maje Brazil right that was the 838 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:51,180 other part of that case which is just 839 00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:52,740 recent 840 00:38:57,890 --> 00:38:56,220 um uh where it appears that uh there's 841 00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,900 an agreement between Brazil and the 842 00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:00,480 United States that oh we're gonna uh 843 00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:01,980 we're gonna get too involved in anything 844 00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:04,740 strange that happens here so it seems 845 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:06,900 that every time something strange has 846 00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:09,060 happened the United States have stepped 847 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:11,160 in and flown everything back to the 848 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,480 United States and when they do that 849 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:14,640 where do you think they're taking these 850 00:39:20,530 --> 00:39:17,400 bodies these crafts I don't know but I 851 00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:20,540 want to be on that plane so that I know 852 00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:23,400 what what base they're taking that to 853 00:39:28,490 --> 00:39:27,000 because I don't know we've heard a lot 854 00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:28,500 of Base names 855 00:39:33,290 --> 00:39:30,660 um throughout the decades throughout the 856 00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:33,300 research where some cases it's the 857 00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,420 Holloman Air Force Base some cases it's 858 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:39,599 some other ones and 859 00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:41,940 if I think that if that information is 860 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:43,980 made public like even if people are 861 00:39:48,530 --> 00:39:46,140 speculating on that 862 00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:48,540 it's probably not there 863 00:39:54,050 --> 00:39:51,359 that's that that that's my opinion Sam 864 00:39:56,990 --> 00:39:54,060 look I'm sharing my opinion here I don't 865 00:39:59,210 --> 00:39:57,000 think that's the case time I feel like 866 00:40:01,550 --> 00:39:59,220 I'm grilling a witness in a murder case 867 00:40:02,930 --> 00:40:01,560 up on the stand and I just gotta get you 868 00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,940 know I've got to get from one point to 869 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:04,560 the other and I'm gonna do it as 870 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:07,200 elegantly as possible but I will get the 871 00:40:10,849 --> 00:40:09,720 answers for the jury here is the thing 872 00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:10,859 though 873 00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:13,920 um with all of this 874 00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:15,540 um you know what is the United States 875 00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:18,420 know what are they you know uh getting 876 00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:20,220 from other countries that are 877 00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,440 cooperating uh when it comes to ET and 878 00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:25,440 UFOs uh and and where this stuff is 879 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:28,260 going and then we have this missing UFO 880 00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:29,359 report 881 00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,520 which it would indicate that our 882 00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,800 government knows something or it does 883 00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:37,680 not so before we get to the UFO report 884 00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:39,420 do you think that the United States 885 00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:42,060 government has all the information we 886 00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:43,800 need about ET but they're just not 887 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:44,760 talking 888 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:46,320 probably not 889 00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:50,460 I think really here we go I think here's 890 00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:53,060 my opinion 891 00:40:59,450 --> 00:40:56,160 about time it's about time 892 00:41:02,329 --> 00:40:59,460 when we are looking at any government or 893 00:41:05,690 --> 00:41:02,339 any entity of power they're never going 894 00:41:07,370 --> 00:41:05,700 to let you know their weaknesses and if 895 00:41:08,990 --> 00:41:07,380 anything they're going to State I have 896 00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:09,000 all the information but I'm not going to 897 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:11,700 share it with you when in reality that 898 00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:13,560 simply might not be the case and a 899 00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:15,900 conversation that has been laid out 900 00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:19,740 pretty recently in the field in the UFO 901 00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:22,440 field is where we're having all of these 902 00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:25,440 now private Industries looking into the 903 00:41:28,849 --> 00:41:27,540 UFO phenomenon but they don't owe 904 00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:28,859 anybody anything right because they're 905 00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,900 using their own money to to conduct 906 00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:32,160 their research 907 00:41:36,349 --> 00:41:33,780 and to find the answer that they're 908 00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:36,359 looking for right that there no one can 909 00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:38,760 file a foia against them to get that 910 00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:40,859 information like with the government so 911 00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:43,880 could it be that these private entities 912 00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:47,839 have more knowledge over the government 913 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,260 I I think I think that is a possibility 914 00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,520 and I don't think that the government 915 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:55,920 has all the answers could that 916 00:42:00,530 --> 00:41:58,200 potentially be a reason for a delay in 917 00:42:02,569 --> 00:42:00,540 the UFO report well it's been a case of 918 00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:02,579 crickets there hasn't been any report 919 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,099 all the mainstream media has done is 920 00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:07,680 Echo the statement that although they 921 00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:10,200 have received hundreds of new cases that 922 00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,660 are being investigated so far no 923 00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:14,579 evidence of an extraterrestrial origin 924 00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:17,640 to the UFOs have been found but 925 00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:20,820 Sean Kirkpatrick who is the director of 926 00:42:26,690 --> 00:42:23,400 the pentagon's all domain anomaly 927 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:26,700 resolution office or Arrow has not ruled 928 00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:28,680 out the possibility of extraterrestrial 929 00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:32,040 life and has said that he is taking a 930 00:42:36,829 --> 00:42:34,140 scientific approach to the research 931 00:42:39,710 --> 00:42:36,839 going forward so I don't think that 932 00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,720 there is anything suspicious about the 933 00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:42,240 delay rather I think it's potentially 934 00:42:47,930 --> 00:42:45,900 tied up in bureaucratic red tape and 935 00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,940 probably a hot potato for like those 936 00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:49,920 those newbie officials trying to make 937 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,099 sense of it all maybe but I don't think 938 00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:54,720 the government has all the answers to 939 00:43:00,890 --> 00:42:56,940 the topic see that wasn't so hard 940 00:43:05,390 --> 00:43:00,900 Christina I wasn't so hard was it looks 941 00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:05,400 just to just to I to mark this this 942 00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:10,440 fabulous occasion that was at 7 41 p.m I 943 00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:11,700 got my 944 00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:15,480 first opinion there you go it has been 945 00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:19,260 written down but why um I mean you're 946 00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:23,400 exactly right and then if we have this 947 00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:27,300 uh clear Line in the Sand where the 948 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,400 military and the government is protected 949 00:43:33,890 --> 00:43:31,920 and separated from the from this 950 00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:33,900 information by the private sector in a 951 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,579 secret Access program where there's no 952 00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:38,160 money Trail and there's no no oversight 953 00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:40,680 right and and this is indeed the case 954 00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:43,560 should we change that should we change 955 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,240 that rule so we could and should go and 956 00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:51,420 find out what these companies and and 957 00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:54,060 corporations have and are working on 958 00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:55,500 should that change 959 00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,660 of course it should but how many people 960 00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:00,480 have the patience to fill out the 961 00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:03,720 paperwork have it be verified have it go 962 00:44:08,990 --> 00:44:06,540 through through so many hands right of 963 00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:09,000 course we all have this good intention 964 00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:11,940 of attempting to do that but how many 965 00:44:19,069 --> 00:44:14,940 are willing to put in the work 966 00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:19,079 well the problem is and I think it's uh 967 00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:22,560 it's a clear one the problem is the 968 00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:25,020 private sector has been protected for so 969 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:26,940 long with this that they really don't 970 00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:30,359 give a crap right and so how do you 971 00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:36,240 figure out the way to get them scared 972 00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:38,400 right to get them word that oh no you 973 00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:40,020 know what we do need to talk about this 974 00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:42,000 because right now they don't they they 975 00:44:45,530 --> 00:44:44,040 just don't care they have no fear 976 00:44:47,569 --> 00:44:45,540 right that's right there are no 977 00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:47,579 consequences you're holding them back 978 00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:49,560 they don't have to get funded by the 979 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:51,060 government through taxes because they 980 00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:54,720 make their own money well and look you 981 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,680 you don't speed in your car well you do 982 00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:01,200 you know you do but I'm a good driver 983 00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:04,920 but most people you know they don't want 984 00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:07,619 to exceed the speed limit why 985 00:45:12,050 --> 00:45:10,440 they don't want a speeding ticket right 986 00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:12,060 they don't want to pay the speeding 987 00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:13,500 ticket they don't want that on the 988 00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:14,760 record and they don't want their 989 00:45:19,309 --> 00:45:17,760 insurance going up now that's reason 990 00:45:23,569 --> 00:45:19,319 enough 991 00:45:26,089 --> 00:45:23,579 to to you know to behave but but private 992 00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:26,099 corporations don't have that fear right 993 00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:29,460 there is nothing there was nobody that's 994 00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:31,380 gonna walk up and 995 00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:33,180 you know knock on the door and go let me 996 00:45:37,309 --> 00:45:34,920 see the secret craft 997 00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:37,319 it's not going to happen you're right 998 00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:39,660 they they don't get scared there is no 999 00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:42,180 one person who will be held accountable 1000 00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:46,500 especially with the multi like Nationals 1001 00:45:54,349 --> 00:45:50,359 who end up at Davos and other Power 1002 00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:54,359 Player meetings so I'm not it's it's 1003 00:46:01,370 --> 00:45:57,240 it's not what you know it's who you know 1004 00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:01,380 and and same as arm dealers okay there 1005 00:46:07,550 --> 00:46:05,220 they are a global cabal of power and 1006 00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:07,560 knowledge 1007 00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:10,440 did you just say tables that's a that's 1008 00:46:16,849 --> 00:46:11,880 a really good point though 1009 00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:16,859 that's a really good point 1010 00:46:25,010 --> 00:46:19,859 um and and to that 1011 00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,020 um we had uh today the the story broke 1012 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,540 and this came from Newsweek 1013 00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:29,760 um that two days ago today's the fifth 1014 00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:34,260 right so two days ago January 3rd Russia 1015 00:46:40,990 --> 00:46:37,260 says this is Russia now this is what 1016 00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,000 they say they say they shot down a UFO 1017 00:46:47,809 --> 00:46:44,400 and when something like that this is 1018 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,819 Newsweek magazine this isn't some trash 1019 00:46:54,290 --> 00:46:50,160 tabloid like the Daily Star out of 1020 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,300 London or whatever you know the sun 1021 00:47:00,589 --> 00:46:56,160 um out of the UK this is Newsweek 1022 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:00,599 magazine and the governor of uh uh that 1023 00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:04,440 Province literally said ah we had to 1024 00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:06,920 make the decision to liquidate it 1025 00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,740 and and the air defenses went up and and 1026 00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:12,960 shot this thing down 1027 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:15,540 um the description was a ball it was a 1028 00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,720 ball right not a drone it was it was a 1029 00:47:23,089 --> 00:47:21,119 ball it was a white ball of light 1030 00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:23,099 um and they shot it down out of the sky 1031 00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:25,980 you think that was not of this Earth do 1032 00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:27,480 you think that was terrestrial and why 1033 00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:30,780 use UFO unless you thought that it was 1034 00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:32,280 something else 1035 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,040 the description is so minimal in the 1036 00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:37,440 article and I went ahead and I attempted 1037 00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,420 to look at other articles to see if they 1038 00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:42,000 provided more information however every 1039 00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:43,680 single article pulled their information 1040 00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:46,980 from newswink Newsweek so there wasn't 1041 00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,140 anything unique about any of the 1042 00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:51,359 articles that I came across aside from 1043 00:47:56,510 --> 00:47:54,240 that original one which yes it is 1044 00:47:59,450 --> 00:47:56,520 compelling yes we're getting UFOs in the 1045 00:48:02,210 --> 00:47:59,460 news which is awesome I'm always happy 1046 00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:02,220 with that but the information and the 1047 00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:06,119 details are so limited you at least for 1048 00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:08,940 myself I I can't make a conclusion on if 1049 00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:12,119 it's extraterrestrial or from Earth 1050 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:15,960 because we we just don't get enough to 1051 00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:19,200 make a conclusion aside from what one of 1052 00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:21,480 the Russian officials said we need to 1053 00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:24,540 liquidate it well it can go one of two 1054 00:48:30,770 --> 00:48:28,800 ways do they think it's a UFO or is it a 1055 00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:30,780 narrative of some kind for you to look 1056 00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:33,060 one way and not the other 1057 00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:35,400 this is not that far from the Ukraine 1058 00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:38,300 right this is and and 1059 00:48:44,569 --> 00:48:41,220 the uh 1060 00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:44,579 the firing up of any aircraft systems 1061 00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:48,900 right now uh is is something that people 1062 00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:50,700 are prepared for 1063 00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:53,099 you don't know about a drone flying over 1064 00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:56,819 a missile an errant thing uh an enemy 1065 00:49:03,050 --> 00:48:59,339 aircraft all of this everybody's on high 1066 00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:03,060 alert right so I would think Christina 1067 00:49:08,410 --> 00:49:07,140 this is where I find this uh report very 1068 00:49:11,630 --> 00:49:08,420 interesting 1069 00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:11,640 that nobody said 1070 00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:14,520 oh we thought it was a Ukrainian drone 1071 00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:17,400 we thought that it was Chinese we 1072 00:49:23,870 --> 00:49:19,980 thought that it was uh Iranian whatever 1073 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,880 there was nothing like that where you 1074 00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:25,920 would have thought that with everybody I 1075 00:49:31,010 --> 00:49:28,680 mean seriously everybody is just nervous 1076 00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:31,020 right now and you have something like 1077 00:49:37,010 --> 00:49:34,800 that that would be the first uh reaction 1078 00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:37,020 right that this is I almost make you 1079 00:49:40,550 --> 00:49:38,520 hesitate though 1080 00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:40,560 Jimmy because we've heard time and time 1081 00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:42,420 again even to like the more recent 1082 00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:44,339 sightings where no it's a weather 1083 00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:47,099 balloon no it's Venus no it's swamp gas 1084 00:49:52,089 --> 00:49:48,780 and then now you're getting this one 1085 00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:52,099 punch in the face and you're like 1086 00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:55,440 what am I supposed to think okay so 1087 00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:56,640 Christina 1088 00:50:03,849 --> 00:50:01,140 yes but here's here's where you air 1089 00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:03,859 in that opinion 1090 00:50:09,890 --> 00:50:07,319 is this everybody wants to blame game 1091 00:50:14,809 --> 00:50:09,900 right now of course right so let's say 1092 00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:14,819 it is a it is a UFO Zeta reticuli 1093 00:50:19,730 --> 00:50:18,480 you're still gonna say it's Ukrainian 1094 00:50:22,430 --> 00:50:19,740 right 1095 00:50:24,530 --> 00:50:22,440 and so to go the opposite of that and 1096 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,540 and jump on the UFO thing 1097 00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:26,400 um when the opportunity is there for the 1098 00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:28,560 blame game I find that really 1099 00:50:34,190 --> 00:50:31,560 interesting remember when um uh not to 1100 00:50:36,410 --> 00:50:34,200 stay on Ukraine and and geopolitics and 1101 00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:36,420 the war that's going on over there but 1102 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:41,720 when they had that uh uh Russian missile 1103 00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:44,880 allegedly landed in Poland last month 1104 00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:47,160 that was a big deal right oh man my 1105 00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:48,900 Russian missiles Landing in Poland and 1106 00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:51,660 everybody was real nervous and it turned 1107 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:53,339 out it wasn't a Russian missile it was a 1108 00:50:59,569 --> 00:50:56,640 Ukrainian Annie missile missile that 1109 00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,579 landed in Poland but the blame game was 1110 00:51:04,490 --> 00:51:02,160 immediately there when when Ukraine 1111 00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:04,500 themselves knew it was their own missile 1112 00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:06,660 but they didn't say anything because the 1113 00:51:10,730 --> 00:51:08,220 blame game is going to get fired up 1114 00:51:12,770 --> 00:51:10,740 first and that's what's interesting here 1115 00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:12,780 is that the blame game stayed out of 1116 00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:15,420 this article and the blame game was 1117 00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:19,800 clearly put on UFOs very interesting 1118 00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:22,020 it is 1119 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,319 that that's all I have to say about that 1120 00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:27,119 is that it is interesting it makes you 1121 00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,300 question what was the purpose for it 1122 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:32,880 because it hasn't followed that same 1123 00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:35,520 narrative that the mainstream media has 1124 00:51:40,730 --> 00:51:38,460 taken for decades yeah 1125 00:51:43,549 --> 00:51:40,740 um she does 15 shows a week and she 1126 00:51:45,309 --> 00:51:43,559 answers that question with meh yeah I 1127 00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:45,319 guess 1128 00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:53,030 but here uh you know for me here is here 1129 00:51:57,650 --> 00:51:55,500 is the interesting thing 1130 00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:57,660 um this 1131 00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:00,420 is as far as I know 1132 00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:04,440 this is the first time I have ever heard 1133 00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:05,400 of 1134 00:52:10,089 --> 00:52:07,740 a UFO being shot down 1135 00:52:13,609 --> 00:52:10,099 I've never heard that before the 1136 00:52:16,010 --> 00:52:13,619 missiles lock up guns not publicly yeah 1137 00:52:20,089 --> 00:52:16,020 right right we hear those stories right 1138 00:52:22,849 --> 00:52:20,099 they're uh t-ron you know we can go uh 1139 00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:22,859 over uh so many different cases where 1140 00:52:28,250 --> 00:52:24,960 the weapon systems are completely shut 1141 00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:28,260 down yeah and and so forth 1142 00:52:33,470 --> 00:52:31,980 um but this case uh it's the UFO I think 1143 00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:33,480 this is the first time I've ever heard 1144 00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:36,359 this kind of reporting and it's Newsweek 1145 00:52:40,730 --> 00:52:38,940 that brings it to us I think it's a it's 1146 00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:40,740 a pretty big deal 1147 00:52:44,809 --> 00:52:44,099 it is and talking about 1148 00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:44,819 um 1149 00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:47,640 because we we did a show on nukes and 1150 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,099 UFOs and I feel like one 1151 00:52:55,089 --> 00:52:53,040 case that is particularly in I wouldn't 1152 00:52:57,230 --> 00:52:55,099 say important but that's like 1153 00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:57,240 important to mention for this 1154 00:53:02,930 --> 00:53:00,359 conversation about Russia and Ukraine is 1155 00:53:07,069 --> 00:53:02,940 one that we talked about uh and that 1156 00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:07,079 took place in 1982 in Soviet Ukraine 1157 00:53:14,589 --> 00:53:10,920 part of the USSR until 1992 and that was 1158 00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:14,599 the Buy Local ruvichi case 1159 00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:18,540 and this one is probably one of my 1160 00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:21,180 favorite cases when it comes to nukes 1161 00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:24,119 and UFOs aside of course from the 1162 00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:25,740 Maelstrom Air Force base with Robert 1163 00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:28,380 Salas but this one in particular and I 1164 00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:29,940 have my notes down so I can give you the 1165 00:53:36,170 --> 00:53:32,460 accurate data that I have here 1166 00:53:40,010 --> 00:53:36,180 is that we have heard time and time 1167 00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,020 again of missiles being tested and then 1168 00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:43,200 a UFO coming and either shooting it down 1169 00:53:49,970 --> 00:53:46,380 or disabling it but with this case that 1170 00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:49,980 took place in uh Soviet Ukraine which is 1171 00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:52,380 just you know now Ukraine 1172 00:53:57,710 --> 00:53:55,140 what happened with this case in 1173 00:53:59,710 --> 00:53:57,720 particular was instead of deactivating 1174 00:54:03,130 --> 00:53:59,720 the missile 1175 00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,140 the the UFO craft 1176 00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,240 supposedly turned all of them on and 1177 00:54:11,930 --> 00:54:08,640 they were ready to shoot out and just 1178 00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:11,940 cause a mass panic across the globe 1179 00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:15,000 and then at the very last moment they 1180 00:54:19,350 --> 00:54:16,500 shut it down they're like no we're just 1181 00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:19,360 kidding just a joke but 1182 00:54:23,569 --> 00:54:21,660 [Laughter] 1183 00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:23,579 um it's I mean it's not it was not funny 1184 00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:25,500 then they're probably like they were 1185 00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,180 probably peeing themselves but looking 1186 00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:30,480 back at it now where once again you have 1187 00:54:37,069 --> 00:54:33,599 supposedly a lot of UFO craft when they 1188 00:54:38,690 --> 00:54:37,079 see nuclear testing they shut it down in 1189 00:54:40,910 --> 00:54:38,700 this case they were like oh you want to 1190 00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,920 play with these toys let's see what 1191 00:54:45,549 --> 00:54:41,839 happens 1192 00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:45,559 can you imagine right you're there 1193 00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:48,780 somebody called The Americans we need to 1194 00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:52,920 tell them UFOs are shooting our nuclear 1195 00:54:58,670 --> 00:54:55,500 our weapons right I mean that's because 1196 00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:58,680 that's that's the conversation right you 1197 00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:01,260 can't say we accidentally you know fired 1198 00:55:05,390 --> 00:55:02,640 a bunch of nuclear missiles you can't 1199 00:55:07,490 --> 00:55:05,400 see no it's the blame game right and you 1200 00:55:09,950 --> 00:55:07,500 gotta you gotta blame 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for you how 1285 00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,579 many do I have listed uh for you right 1286 00:59:01,730 --> 00:58:58,799 now I just have one website and that's 1287 00:59:04,430 --> 00:59:01,740 the strangeparadigms.com there you can 1288 00:59:07,069 --> 00:59:04,440 find all of the shows in video and 1289 00:59:08,930 --> 00:59:07,079 podcast formats along with a bunch of 1290 00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,940 other stuff as well you've got 1291 00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,040 youtube.com Paradigm shifts you got 1292 00:59:15,049 --> 00:59:12,960 twitter.com eyes on this guys he's got 1293 00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,059 tick tock.com eyes on the sky so you've 1294 00:59:20,569 --> 00:59:17,040 got facebook.com Paradigm shifts 1295 00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:20,579 official you have Instagram strange 1296 00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:21,900 paradigms 1297 00:59:27,710 --> 00:59:26,040 yeah that's a lot of do you um do you 1298 00:59:29,569 --> 00:59:27,720 post to each one of those individually 1299 00:59:32,329 --> 00:59:29,579 or do you have some 1300 00:59:34,010 --> 00:59:32,339 some kind of Technology where you're 1301 00:59:36,289 --> 00:59:34,020 just you know one post and everything 1302 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,299 goes out so I currently post them 1303 00:59:40,010 --> 00:59:38,160 individually but I do know what you're 1304 00:59:41,569 --> 00:59:40,020 referring to and I'm looking into 1305 00:59:44,030 --> 00:59:41,579 getting that because 1306 00:59:45,710 --> 00:59:44,040 it's so much easier to have just one 1307 00:59:47,329 --> 00:59:45,720 program and then 1308 00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:47,339 posts it everywhere which would be 1309 00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,500 fantastic but I need to do a little bit 1310 00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:51,359 more research on that but for the time 1311 00:59:54,349 --> 00:59:52,559 being I'm just posting everywhere 1312 00:59:58,190 --> 00:59:54,359 individually and it's a lot of platforms 1313 01:00:00,289 --> 00:59:58,200 including Discord it is it is no I 1314 01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:00,299 I've hired people 1315 01:00:06,670 --> 01:00:03,660 That's it man I'm done I'm done I'm done 1316 01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:06,680 with that I just say here here you go 1317 01:00:13,069 --> 01:00:11,400 just act like you're me and post you 1318 01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:13,079 know and 1319 01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:15,480 it's uh it's it's the only way to get 1320 01:00:22,609 --> 01:00:18,960 you know I I admit it you know I admit 1321 01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:22,619 it I admit it and uh I had somebody 1322 01:00:27,710 --> 01:00:24,839 um I was just in Miami over the weekend 1323 01:00:31,789 --> 01:00:27,720 for New Year's and I had somebody come 1324 01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,799 up to me literally and say so Church 1325 01:00:35,809 --> 01:00:33,839 that's not you posting on social media 1326 01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,819 is it I said what do you mean he goes 1327 01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:37,680 because I specifically posted and I said 1328 01:00:41,450 --> 01:00:39,720 do you ask a couple of questions and the 1329 01:00:43,490 --> 01:00:41,460 responses I got back 1330 01:00:49,010 --> 01:00:43,500 it wasn't you 1331 01:00:53,089 --> 01:00:49,020 I said I said uh it was him and I 1332 01:00:55,970 --> 01:00:53,099 pointed and uh it was really funny 1333 01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:55,980 um but uh I can't keep up with all of it 1334 01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:58,740 you know I don't know how you do I I 1335 01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,680 can't I can't read every post and or 1336 01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:03,599 reply or comment 1337 01:01:07,849 --> 01:01:05,640 um I just I just can't do it anymore it 1338 01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:07,859 was so easy and fun in the beginning 1339 01:01:14,089 --> 01:01:12,000 right one account and staying there and 1340 01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:14,099 hanging out with every it's it's not 1341 01:01:21,410 --> 01:01:17,160 that kind of party today uh you've got 1342 01:01:25,309 --> 01:01:21,420 to literally I was watching last night 1343 01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:25,319 I was uh uh I was watching a movie my 1344 01:01:32,270 --> 01:01:29,640 phone beeps and and uh a friend of ours 1345 01:01:33,890 --> 01:01:32,280 uh that was Billy Carson he's starting a 1346 01:01:35,569 --> 01:01:33,900 live stream I was like I'll check out 1347 01:01:37,490 --> 01:01:35,579 Billy's live stream okay you know I 1348 01:01:39,710 --> 01:01:37,500 click on it and they talked about it 1349 01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:39,720 there and his guest 1350 01:01:44,450 --> 01:01:41,700 um said so where are we streaming to 1351 01:01:46,970 --> 01:01:44,460 right now and Billy goes one two three 1352 01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,980 four five six seven eight nine ten 1353 01:01:50,089 --> 01:01:48,000 eleven 1354 01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:50,099 11 platforms 1355 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:52,799 that's that's what it takes today right 1356 01:01:58,190 --> 01:01:54,000 you're not 1357 01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:58,200 it's it's it's everything everywhere all 1358 01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:00,420 at once which 1359 01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:06,890 sounds good to me I'll watch it 1360 01:02:12,589 --> 01:02:08,940 everything about about how how to manage 1361 01:02:16,990 --> 01:02:14,510 here's the deal 1362 01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:17,000 we just talked about 1363 01:02:25,789 --> 01:02:21,660 maje Virginia right and uh you know 1364 01:02:28,130 --> 01:02:25,799 Brazil we talked to you know Mexico 1365 01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:28,140 um the United States uh we haven't 1366 01:02:34,430 --> 01:02:31,740 jumped into uh Canada we we still could 1367 01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:34,440 but there's a lot of stuff to see and 1368 01:02:41,390 --> 01:02:36,980 one of my favorite things 1369 01:02:44,930 --> 01:02:41,400 uh to to do is when I'm on your show to 1370 01:02:47,329 --> 01:02:44,940 watch people donate to the RV fund uh 1371 01:02:49,490 --> 01:02:47,339 that uh that you've got going on that 1372 01:02:51,289 --> 01:02:49,500 you didn't start this is the you know 1373 01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:51,299 these are your listeners and your fan 1374 01:02:58,250 --> 01:02:55,500 base uh that have started this uh thing 1375 01:03:02,030 --> 01:02:58,260 um where did the idea come up uh 1376 01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:02,040 originally to to get an RV was it during 1377 01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:05,760 this show or is it uh this period or is 1378 01:03:08,089 --> 01:03:07,140 this something you thought about for a 1379 01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:08,099 long time 1380 01:03:13,970 --> 01:03:11,160 so I started seriously thinking about it 1381 01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:13,980 my senior year in high school of 1382 01:03:21,770 --> 01:03:16,799 purchasing an RV and living on the road 1383 01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:21,780 now that that plan has changed a lot 1384 01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:23,460 since then 1385 01:03:29,630 --> 01:03:26,400 um mainly because when I was younger in 1386 01:03:32,530 --> 01:03:29,640 high school I I just didn't like this 1387 01:03:35,690 --> 01:03:32,540 rigid lifestyle that people were living 1388 01:03:38,270 --> 01:03:35,700 where they had to stay in one place for 1389 01:03:40,609 --> 01:03:38,280 several decades work a nine to five job 1390 01:03:43,430 --> 01:03:40,619 things like this and I've never really 1391 01:03:46,670 --> 01:03:43,440 enjoyed that I've had I've attempted to 1392 01:03:49,490 --> 01:03:46,680 have those types of jobs and I I never 1393 01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:49,500 enjoyed them but 1394 01:03:55,690 --> 01:03:52,559 as this show progressed I thought 1395 01:03:59,690 --> 01:03:55,700 instead of just like living on the road 1396 01:04:03,710 --> 01:03:59,700 why not while having this channel visit 1397 01:04:05,809 --> 01:04:03,720 UFO hotspots paranormal hotspots and 1398 01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:05,819 write everything down document 1399 01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:07,440 everything because the Channel that I 1400 01:04:11,630 --> 01:04:08,819 have which is under my name Christina 1401 01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:11,640 Gomez no h by the way 1402 01:04:17,930 --> 01:04:14,940 it's it's all about journaling my 1403 01:04:20,750 --> 01:04:17,940 Adventures my Curiosities and the things 1404 01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:20,760 that I'm learning as I go along what I 1405 01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:22,319 had mentioned in the first half of the 1406 01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:24,839 show is that it originally all started 1407 01:04:29,630 --> 01:04:27,180 with UFOs that's how I got into creating 1408 01:04:32,450 --> 01:04:29,640 a YouTube channel and then doing the 1409 01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:32,460 research right but as I progressed and I 1410 01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:34,140 spoke to more people and I was doing 1411 01:04:38,329 --> 01:04:36,540 more research I was jumping down all 1412 01:04:40,250 --> 01:04:38,339 these different rabbit holes and I began 1413 01:04:42,049 --> 01:04:40,260 to realize that there is a convergence 1414 01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,059 between the UFO phenomenon and the 1415 01:04:47,210 --> 01:04:44,880 Paranormal and then that led into so 1416 01:04:49,370 --> 01:04:47,220 many other rabbit holes to the point now 1417 01:04:51,710 --> 01:04:49,380 Jimmy where we've done shows on 1418 01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:51,720 Mysteries with the history where we look 1419 01:04:55,849 --> 01:04:54,240 at an entire country for instance this 1420 01:04:59,450 --> 01:04:55,859 last one the mysteries of Australia 1421 01:05:01,210 --> 01:04:59,460 where we spoke about UFO sightings we 1422 01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:01,220 spoke about Cryptids spoke about 1423 01:05:07,609 --> 01:05:03,660 disappearances and they're all under 1424 01:05:09,890 --> 01:05:07,619 this category of The Unexplained and so 1425 01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:09,900 for myself that's what I want to 1426 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,059 document while traveling across the 1427 01:05:17,809 --> 01:05:14,640 United States and just decking it out 1428 01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:17,819 with really good research equipment as 1429 01:05:22,430 --> 01:05:20,760 well and to bring everyone with me on 1430 01:05:25,190 --> 01:05:22,440 the journey because there's a lot of 1431 01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:25,200 people that want to go on the road and 1432 01:05:29,809 --> 01:05:27,720 do research but not many execute it 1433 01:05:32,569 --> 01:05:29,819 because it's it's a very difficult dream 1434 01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:32,579 to pursue it takes a lot of dedication 1435 01:05:38,210 --> 01:05:35,760 and it takes a lot of 1436 01:05:40,130 --> 01:05:38,220 um understanding equipment safety as 1437 01:05:43,130 --> 01:05:40,140 well camping knowledge I mean there's so 1438 01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:43,140 many factors that go into it luckily 1439 01:05:47,450 --> 01:05:45,540 I've had five years to prepare I will be 1440 01:05:50,690 --> 01:05:47,460 graduating this year from the University 1441 01:05:52,609 --> 01:05:50,700 which I could not be more excited 1442 01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:52,619 because 1443 01:05:57,289 --> 01:05:55,140 it's College I mean you you either love 1444 01:06:00,530 --> 01:05:57,299 it or you hate it and I was on that side 1445 01:06:03,170 --> 01:06:00,540 of like not loving it I was 1446 01:06:06,430 --> 01:06:03,180 not loving college or the idea of 1447 01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:06,440 getting an RV oh no no 1448 01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,359 not loving College I come from a street 1449 01:06:13,490 --> 01:06:11,280 that's so cool you know what you know 1450 01:06:15,770 --> 01:06:13,500 look it's not for everyone I came from a 1451 01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:15,780 strict Latin household and I've always 1452 01:06:21,470 --> 01:06:18,480 enjoyed learning but there have been 1453 01:06:23,690 --> 01:06:21,480 many aspects when it comes to the school 1454 01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:23,700 system where they tell you all right 1455 01:06:29,569 --> 01:06:26,880 your answers are A B C or D pick one and 1456 01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:29,579 you can't really ask questions beyond 1457 01:06:35,809 --> 01:06:33,660 that I am not thoroughly liked by my 1458 01:06:38,809 --> 01:06:35,819 professors because I ask some questions 1459 01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,819 that they simply find difficulty 1460 01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:40,559 answering and I'm not there to put them 1461 01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:43,260 on the spot at all but I truly want to 1462 01:06:49,849 --> 01:06:46,079 understand when I speak to people I want 1463 01:06:52,250 --> 01:06:49,859 to understand what their specialty is 1464 01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:52,260 and also their perspective as well and 1465 01:06:57,170 --> 01:06:54,000 so when it comes to even my professors 1466 01:06:59,390 --> 01:06:57,180 I'm like but can you explain why and 1467 01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:59,400 they just said I I don't get paid enough 1468 01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:01,920 to tell you why but this is the answer 1469 01:07:05,870 --> 01:07:03,960 and I'm like do you know how much it 1470 01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:05,880 costs to go to university do you have 1471 01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,680 any idea I'm a self-funded college 1472 01:07:12,650 --> 01:07:10,319 student like I am paying you big bucks 1473 01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:12,660 to give me the answer yeah and they're 1474 01:07:19,849 --> 01:07:16,200 like no and damn it so 1475 01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,859 um uh you're also a Communications major 1476 01:07:25,130 --> 01:07:22,319 minor that's correct so it's a 1477 01:07:28,190 --> 01:07:25,140 communication major a business minor 1478 01:07:29,809 --> 01:07:28,200 business minor okay so 1479 01:07:33,289 --> 01:07:29,819 um when you go down the communications 1480 01:07:36,829 --> 01:07:33,299 path there are so many uh different 1481 01:07:39,410 --> 01:07:36,839 areas to also get into and to learn 1482 01:07:42,529 --> 01:07:39,420 um are you doing any film or video 1483 01:07:45,470 --> 01:07:42,539 editing filmmaking documentary style are 1484 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,480 you taking any classes for that yes over 1485 01:07:50,710 --> 01:07:47,760 the summer I did take a documentary and 1486 01:07:55,549 --> 01:07:50,720 filmmaking class and with that knowledge 1487 01:07:58,010 --> 01:07:55,559 I am going to be using that for the RV 1488 01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:58,020 while like during that time where I'll 1489 01:08:04,370 --> 01:08:01,440 be filming but also I plan on creating 1490 01:08:07,309 --> 01:08:04,380 documentaries as well which is going to 1491 01:08:10,750 --> 01:08:07,319 be super exciting it takes a 1492 01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:10,760 crazy amount of work but with the [\h__\h] 1493 01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:13,140 did you shoot a documentary for the 1494 01:08:18,769 --> 01:08:16,500 class A short yes yes we were required 1495 01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,779 to film I mean definitely not like an 1496 01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:20,880 hour an hour and a half long but like 1497 01:08:24,829 --> 01:08:23,040 kind of like a practice to right grade 1498 01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,839 it on and understand the basics 1499 01:08:28,970 --> 01:08:26,640 Christina 1500 01:08:32,329 --> 01:08:28,980 just say yes so I get to the next 1501 01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:32,339 question okay the next question is uh 1502 01:08:38,269 --> 01:08:35,819 was it about UFOs or Bigfoot 1503 01:08:39,050 --> 01:08:38,279 it was you know what I'll let you take a 1504 01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,060 guess 1505 01:08:44,150 --> 01:08:41,759 I just did was it UFOs or Bigfoot okay 1506 01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:44,160 but out of those two take a guess 1507 01:08:49,130 --> 01:08:45,839 Bigfoot 1508 01:08:51,289 --> 01:08:49,140 you betcha it was okay so and when 1509 01:08:55,550 --> 01:08:51,299 you're in the car I love this because I 1510 01:08:57,769 --> 01:08:55,560 I went through all of this myself so uh 1511 01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,779 the school has got a lot of cool stuff 1512 01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,759 right they've got computers editing 1513 01:09:03,289 --> 01:09:01,199 equipment they've got cameras they've 1514 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:03,299 got lights they've got microphones maybe 1515 01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:06,239 a dolly or two and you are able to 1516 01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:08,160 battery packs battery belts and you're 1517 01:09:11,209 --> 01:09:09,600 able to go out and do your stuff right 1518 01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:11,219 right right right right that's right 1519 01:09:18,970 --> 01:09:16,080 okay now did you do the obvious did you 1520 01:09:22,729 --> 01:09:18,980 turn to your teacher Professor whatever 1521 01:09:25,249 --> 01:09:22,739 you whoever's running did you hold up 1522 01:09:27,370 --> 01:09:25,259 the camera and go which one of these can 1523 01:09:30,590 --> 01:09:27,380 I shoot a UFO with 1524 01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:30,600 which one of these best captures a 1525 01:09:34,490 --> 01:09:32,580 Bigfoot in the wilderness did you ask 1526 01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,500 that question very important question I 1527 01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:37,279 had to ask those questions so I knew 1528 01:09:44,570 --> 01:09:41,580 what camcorder to purchase and make the 1529 01:09:47,630 --> 01:09:44,580 smart buy because let me just tell you 1530 01:09:49,789 --> 01:09:47,640 Jimmy this equipment is expensive if you 1531 01:09:53,890 --> 01:09:49,799 want the good stuff and I want the good 1532 01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:53,900 stuff to create the best quality content 1533 01:09:58,490 --> 01:09:56,100 Okay so 1534 01:10:01,010 --> 01:09:58,500 this is actually one of the best 1535 01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,020 questions I have ever seen on Fade to 1536 01:10:05,090 --> 01:10:03,360 Black this is from Kurt M question two 1537 01:10:06,830 --> 01:10:05,100 Christina and Jimmy because I want 1538 01:10:09,770 --> 01:10:06,840 Christina's answer to this I can give 1539 01:10:13,729 --> 01:10:09,780 you my answer uh what digital audio 1540 01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:13,739 workstation do you to use okay Christina 1541 01:10:18,169 --> 01:10:16,560 what do you you do you use Hardware uh 1542 01:10:19,729 --> 01:10:18,179 do you use software do you use a 1543 01:10:21,169 --> 01:10:19,739 combination of both when you capture 1544 01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:21,179 your audio 1545 01:10:27,229 --> 01:10:25,679 so I have a midi keyboard which I also 1546 01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:27,239 use for my music as well but when it 1547 01:10:31,490 --> 01:10:28,560 comes to this 1548 01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:31,500 I I do use 1549 01:10:36,290 --> 01:10:33,300 um Daw which for those I don't know it's 1550 01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,300 a digital audio workstation and then I 1551 01:10:42,530 --> 01:10:39,239 use the process of working with tones 1552 01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:42,540 and oscillators and the granular mod 1553 01:10:48,890 --> 01:10:45,840 plugins as well but that's for music but 1554 01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:48,900 for yeah the question is what software 1555 01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:51,840 are you using on your digital audio 1556 01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:54,480 workstation on your computer I use FL 1557 01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:58,800 Studio and acid Pro oh oh oh oh oh okay 1558 01:11:04,729 --> 01:11:03,120 okay so and both record audio so if 1559 01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:04,739 you're recording 1560 01:11:08,930 --> 01:11:07,320 uh so you do your edits there too as 1561 01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:08,940 well 1562 01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:12,000 um I do my audio edits there but I also 1563 01:11:17,930 --> 01:11:14,640 like for video I use Vegas I use Vegas 1564 01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:17,940 too love Vegas yeah it's it's a learning 1565 01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:20,400 curve when you first start but it has so 1566 01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,920 much flexibility yeah yeah yeah I have 1567 01:11:29,209 --> 01:11:24,960 all that adobe stuff 1568 01:11:30,530 --> 01:11:29,219 um for my audio I use Adobe Audition 1569 01:11:32,270 --> 01:11:30,540 um I've talked about this a lot I've 1570 01:11:33,950 --> 01:11:32,280 been involved with the company since it 1571 01:11:36,169 --> 01:11:33,960 first started 1572 01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:36,179 um so and I love it and it's also the 1573 01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:38,880 industry standard and every radio 1574 01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:42,239 station or Newsroom uh uh across the 1575 01:11:47,649 --> 01:11:44,280 country professionally that's what they 1576 01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:47,659 use and also in most I'm gonna say most 1577 01:11:53,990 --> 01:11:51,600 uh newsrooms they use Vegas they use 1578 01:11:55,790 --> 01:11:54,000 Vegas it's a standard it's a standard 1579 01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:55,800 and also I know this is going to freak 1580 01:12:02,209 --> 01:11:59,520 some people out but listen to me uh 1581 01:12:04,729 --> 01:12:02,219 because this is a great question Kurt 1582 01:12:07,250 --> 01:12:04,739 um it's a PC World 1583 01:12:09,770 --> 01:12:07,260 all right it's not a Mac world you don't 1584 01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:09,780 see Max at radio stations you don't see 1585 01:12:15,530 --> 01:12:12,780 Max in a newsroom 1586 01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:15,540 um in the perfect now in a general sense 1587 01:12:19,370 --> 01:12:17,280 now I'm not saying that there aren't 1588 01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,380 Rebels out there 1589 01:12:23,209 --> 01:12:21,360 um and if you go they struggle 1590 01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:23,219 Raffles that struggle when they use math 1591 01:12:28,850 --> 01:12:25,920 that's right that's right so now in a 1592 01:12:32,450 --> 01:12:28,860 music studio you're going to see Max and 1593 01:12:35,209 --> 01:12:32,460 and Pro Tools but when it comes to TV 1594 01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:35,219 and radio production 1595 01:12:42,530 --> 01:12:38,460 um what is used is PCS and on that it's 1596 01:12:44,810 --> 01:12:42,540 Adobe Audition and Sony Vegas and that 1597 01:12:46,850 --> 01:12:44,820 way all of the platforms are consistent 1598 01:12:48,770 --> 01:12:46,860 across the country and that's it there's 1599 01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:48,780 no questions about it and file exchanges 1600 01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:52,080 and and things and for Speed 1601 01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,480 um you have to 1602 01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,360 um in in in in some cases well in a lot 1603 01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:59,040 of cases this is the way things go down 1604 01:13:04,370 --> 01:13:00,719 you'll see one of those trucks pull up 1605 01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,380 right uh and and they're there 1606 01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:06,719 a reporter comes out with a producer 1607 01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,659 right and they're doing their thing the 1608 01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:12,000 edits for their show that goes down in 1609 01:13:15,709 --> 01:13:13,199 the truck 1610 01:13:17,630 --> 01:13:15,719 they jump in there they got a PC right 1611 01:13:19,250 --> 01:13:17,640 and they're going in and blah blah blah 1612 01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:19,260 blah they put together what's called a 1613 01:13:24,649 --> 01:13:21,360 donut there's another reason for that 1614 01:13:27,169 --> 01:13:24,659 and that you know that goes off and and 1615 01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:27,179 goes back uh to the TV station for the 1616 01:13:32,689 --> 01:13:30,840 news broadcast but uh speed wise PC and 1617 01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:32,699 that's what they use that's it that's it 1618 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:35,040 there isn't uh anything outside of that 1619 01:13:39,950 --> 01:13:36,480 so I hope that answers your question 1620 01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:39,960 Kurt and he I hope he wasn't hoping you 1621 01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:43,140 were gonna say uh oh no I use Pro Tools 1622 01:13:48,890 --> 01:13:46,320 I've got a I've got a 24 i o Pro Tools 1623 01:13:51,610 --> 01:13:48,900 rig they're gonna say like iMovie or 1624 01:13:55,010 --> 01:13:51,620 something which is 1625 01:13:56,750 --> 01:13:55,020 but I I do use Adobe Audition 1626 01:13:59,390 --> 01:13:56,760 um for like podcast cleaning up and 1627 01:14:01,790 --> 01:13:59,400 vocals but I do also use 1628 01:14:03,709 --> 01:14:01,800 um after effects to do a lot of like my 1629 01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:03,719 visuals for the show especially the 1630 01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:06,480 unknown Zone but also for like music 1631 01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:08,880 videos on my music channel as well so I 1632 01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:10,080 usually I use a lot of different 1633 01:14:15,290 --> 01:14:13,199 programs that are very specific to this 1634 01:14:16,570 --> 01:14:15,300 show or the thing that I want to use it 1635 01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:16,580 for 1636 01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:21,300 the uh the importance of that uh if you 1637 01:14:26,990 --> 01:14:24,600 are going to be mobile right you're 1638 01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:27,000 going to be living in this RV you're 1639 01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:28,920 going to have your audio and video 1640 01:14:33,410 --> 01:14:31,199 production equipment there you're going 1641 01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:33,420 to be shooting a documentary uh over a 1642 01:14:36,649 --> 01:14:34,860 good length of time 1643 01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:36,659 that means you're going to be editing in 1644 01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:37,920 your special effects and everything else 1645 01:14:43,130 --> 01:14:39,540 in your audio production all this is 1646 01:14:44,750 --> 01:14:43,140 going to go down in the RV 1647 01:14:47,930 --> 01:14:44,760 yep 1648 01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:47,940 huh yeah I'm gonna figure that one out 1649 01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:50,640 as I go along but I'm excited I'm I'm 1650 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:52,560 mentally prepared I just 1651 01:14:56,270 --> 01:14:54,000 don't know how it's going to turn out 1652 01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:56,280 for me like the most important thing 1653 01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:58,560 where it comes to purchasing an RV is 1654 01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,920 that it needs it needs to have a washer 1655 01:15:07,970 --> 01:15:04,080 and dryer for those that were in college 1656 01:15:10,189 --> 01:15:07,980 you understand my struggle of not having 1657 01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:10,199 a washer and dryer at home so you have 1658 01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:12,480 to go to a laundry mat and you have to 1659 01:15:18,649 --> 01:15:15,900 dedicate several hours of your day every 1660 01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,659 week or every other week to go there and 1661 01:15:22,189 --> 01:15:20,640 then you fear that someone's going to 1662 01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:22,199 steal all of your clothes I've had 1663 01:15:28,850 --> 01:15:24,960 someone steal my towels for no reason 1664 01:15:32,209 --> 01:15:28,860 and so my my main requirement is just to 1665 01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:32,219 have a washer and dryer not the towels I 1666 01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:34,260 know right so then no no here's the 1667 01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,120 worst part about that story Jimmy is 1668 01:15:40,189 --> 01:15:38,640 that I found out someone stole my towels 1669 01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,199 and I'm like these are not even nice 1670 01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:42,960 okay so then I run to the store and I 1671 01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:45,600 purchase some more cheap ones I come 1672 01:15:52,490 --> 01:15:47,520 back to wash those because they're brand 1673 01:15:56,270 --> 01:15:52,500 new and then they return my towels 1674 01:15:59,390 --> 01:15:56,280 yes you didn't return the other ones no 1675 01:16:01,430 --> 01:15:59,400 because I had already washed up oh I was 1676 01:16:05,390 --> 01:16:01,440 so upset I was like what am I gonna do 1677 01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:05,400 with all these extra towels now yeah the 1678 01:16:09,470 --> 01:16:06,960 what about 1679 01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,480 um uh I I want to ask you uh two 1680 01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:11,040 questions and I hope they're they're not 1681 01:16:15,649 --> 01:16:12,840 too strange 1682 01:16:17,450 --> 01:16:15,659 um have you thought about 1683 01:16:20,450 --> 01:16:17,460 shooting at night 1684 01:16:23,570 --> 01:16:20,460 and and how to capture uh something 1685 01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:23,580 because shooting the Stars whether it's 1686 01:16:29,090 --> 01:16:26,400 um you know with video or or a camera 1687 01:16:31,370 --> 01:16:29,100 still camera or even a cell phone it's 1688 01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:31,380 always a challenge right long exposures 1689 01:16:35,390 --> 01:16:34,560 with uh telescopes uh to capture that 1690 01:16:36,830 --> 01:16:35,400 stuff 1691 01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:36,840 um but you're going to be out there 1692 01:16:40,970 --> 01:16:39,120 filming at night a good chunk of the 1693 01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:40,980 time how are you going to pull that off 1694 01:16:47,870 --> 01:16:44,719 well I do have the Aurora psionics Pro 1695 01:16:49,970 --> 01:16:47,880 and I am planning planning on purchasing 1696 01:16:52,490 --> 01:16:49,980 some more like night vision type 1697 01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:52,500 equipment as well so that it will be 1698 01:16:59,390 --> 01:16:56,580 more versatile when film filmmaking to 1699 01:17:02,630 --> 01:16:59,400 have one that can record at night next 1700 01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:02,640 to your average camcorder as well 1701 01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:05,760 because what I've noticed with people 1702 01:17:13,090 --> 01:17:09,840 that have had UFO experiences or that 1703 01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:13,100 capture something on film excuse me 1704 01:17:17,570 --> 01:17:15,960 uh it's it's better to have too because 1705 01:17:19,490 --> 01:17:17,580 they are able to see 1706 01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:19,500 and different 1707 01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:21,420 um light spectrums right but I am also 1708 01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:25,860 getting a pulsar helion Pro xp2 as well 1709 01:17:31,130 --> 01:17:28,080 which is just an amazing thermal camera 1710 01:17:33,790 --> 01:17:31,140 which basically doubles as night vision 1711 01:17:35,630 --> 01:17:33,800 just insane 1712 01:17:39,410 --> 01:17:35,640 what about 1713 01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:39,420 um are you gonna solar power this thing 1714 01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:42,300 that would be cool 1715 01:17:47,630 --> 01:17:45,780 that would be nice you know when um uh 1716 01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:47,640 yeah I think everybody knows by now I've 1717 01:17:52,970 --> 01:17:49,679 been uh shopping I haven't pulled the 1718 01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,980 trigger I've narrowed it down to one uh 1719 01:17:59,450 --> 01:17:54,719 one or two different types I'm looking 1720 01:18:02,570 --> 01:17:59,460 at all teardrop trailers right and a 1721 01:18:05,570 --> 01:18:02,580 teardrop trailer for everybody 1722 01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:05,580 um looks something like I don't have the 1723 01:18:08,590 --> 01:18:06,800 ability 1724 01:18:14,270 --> 01:18:08,600 uh 1725 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:19,189 so if this is 1726 01:18:27,950 --> 01:18:25,130 this is Fred Flintstone but if this is 1727 01:18:30,770 --> 01:18:27,960 if that's my Jeep oh can you see it oh 1728 01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:30,780 man don't tell me okay oh I see it I see 1729 01:18:37,790 --> 01:18:35,640 it that's my Jeep right yeah Rob trailer 1730 01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,800 looks like that behind it which is like 1731 01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:39,600 only a bed right there's nothing else in 1732 01:18:44,450 --> 01:18:41,760 there no there's no there's no washer 1733 01:18:46,689 --> 01:18:44,460 and dryer uh Christina there's no washer 1734 01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:46,699 and dryer but 1735 01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,159 one of the options there's no toilet 1736 01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:52,320 there's no shower there's nothing in 1737 01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:54,600 there you just use that to keep you from 1738 01:19:02,890 --> 01:18:57,600 getting eaten by bears that's that's 1739 01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:02,900 that's the reason uh for tier but um uh 1740 01:19:08,270 --> 01:19:06,239 the the one option 1741 01:19:11,630 --> 01:19:08,280 is solar power 1742 01:19:13,490 --> 01:19:11,640 I think that is that is pretty crucial 1743 01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,500 um to to have that because you're going 1744 01:19:17,390 --> 01:19:15,840 to be in a lot of areas where you're not 1745 01:19:18,830 --> 01:19:17,400 going to have access to AC power and 1746 01:19:21,229 --> 01:19:18,840 then once your batteries run down they 1747 01:19:22,850 --> 01:19:21,239 run down and you're going to need that 1748 01:19:25,689 --> 01:19:22,860 for a lot of reasons obviously for cell 1749 01:19:28,010 --> 01:19:25,699 phones but uh for communications maybe 1750 01:19:31,250 --> 01:19:28,020 what about batteries for your water 1751 01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,260 heater you know or you know things like 1752 01:19:35,090 --> 01:19:32,880 that 1753 01:19:37,790 --> 01:19:35,100 um I think are are very very important 1754 01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:37,800 so yeah I'm I'm definitely with my 1755 01:19:42,290 --> 01:19:40,080 teardrop I'm gonna have solar power 1756 01:19:45,470 --> 01:19:42,300 it's it seems like it's the way to go 1757 01:19:47,090 --> 01:19:45,480 now when purchasing motorhomes is to 1758 01:19:49,070 --> 01:19:47,100 have solar panels there's a good amount 1759 01:19:51,410 --> 01:19:49,080 of them that already have them up there 1760 01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:51,420 and there's many that you have to 1761 01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:54,239 purchase and add but overall yeah you 1762 01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:55,679 really got to think about those things 1763 01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:56,640 that when you're in the middle of 1764 01:19:59,390 --> 01:19:58,320 nowhere and when there's no hookup you 1765 01:20:01,790 --> 01:19:59,400 have to do it how are you going to get 1766 01:20:03,169 --> 01:20:01,800 that energy yeah you have to do it and 1767 01:20:06,169 --> 01:20:03,179 now 1768 01:20:08,750 --> 01:20:06,179 um I'm gonna there's a way to bring all 1769 01:20:10,490 --> 01:20:08,760 of this back to UFOs but before we get 1770 01:20:14,570 --> 01:20:10,500 there 1771 01:20:16,370 --> 01:20:14,580 um I'm curious what what size are we 1772 01:20:18,410 --> 01:20:16,380 talking about here because I'm looking 1773 01:20:22,610 --> 01:20:18,420 at you and I'm picturing a little 16 1774 01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:22,620 foot tiny little RV you know with the 1775 01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:24,600 four-cylinder engine you know something 1776 01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,159 cute 1777 01:20:31,610 --> 01:20:28,560 no it's it's got to be a really good 1778 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:31,620 size because not only were will I be 1779 01:20:36,290 --> 01:20:33,600 filming in it but I'm also planning on 1780 01:20:39,890 --> 01:20:36,300 making at least a tiny studio for 1781 01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:39,900 creating music as well so I'm looking at 1782 01:20:44,209 --> 01:20:42,719 a good 30 feet 1783 01:20:44,810 --> 01:20:44,219 RV 1784 01:20:48,530 --> 01:20:44,820 um 1785 01:20:51,229 --> 01:20:48,540 did three and a zero yeah they're the 1786 01:20:54,169 --> 01:20:51,239 the big 3-0 you know that's that's the 1787 01:20:58,370 --> 01:20:54,179 size of a semi-trip with a trailer I 1788 01:20:59,870 --> 01:20:58,380 mean that's that's big well okay so with 1789 01:21:02,090 --> 01:20:59,880 something like that that means you're 1790 01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:02,100 gonna have the ability you're gonna have 1791 01:21:08,450 --> 01:21:05,280 the extended range and the size to just 1792 01:21:11,930 --> 01:21:08,460 about go anywhere that you want heck 1793 01:21:14,990 --> 01:21:11,940 yeah okay first UFO hotspot where are 1794 01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:15,000 you going no are you okay and I know 1795 01:21:19,490 --> 01:21:16,560 that you probably got all this planned 1796 01:21:24,530 --> 01:21:19,500 out are are you alternating Bigfoot UFO 1797 01:21:27,770 --> 01:21:24,540 Bigfoot UFO or do you have uh uh where's 1798 01:21:30,770 --> 01:21:27,780 where's spot number one and why so the 1799 01:21:33,050 --> 01:21:30,780 first location is going to be the Uinta 1800 01:21:36,110 --> 01:21:33,060 Basin in Utah that is the number one 1801 01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:36,120 place that I'm going because after doing 1802 01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:38,120 the research on the entire state of Utah 1803 01:21:45,790 --> 01:21:42,719 it is a whack State like that stage is 1804 01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:45,800 it's it's whack it's why 1805 01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,199 like the entire State yeah and so that 1806 01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:51,120 would be my very first location to go to 1807 01:21:54,649 --> 01:21:53,100 very specifically the Uinta Basin 1808 01:21:57,169 --> 01:21:54,659 because there's a lot going on there and 1809 01:21:59,630 --> 01:21:57,179 a lot of things to research and cover 1810 01:22:01,970 --> 01:21:59,640 and um Brandon fugle has invited me to 1811 01:22:04,189 --> 01:22:01,980 skinwalk a ranch so that's also gonna 1812 01:22:07,970 --> 01:22:04,199 that's obviously a part of the list of 1813 01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:07,980 places to go and to document so overall 1814 01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:10,800 I'm just I've been planning this for 1815 01:22:15,250 --> 01:22:13,500 years now and I have a whole list of all 1816 01:22:26,590 --> 01:22:15,260 the places that I want to stop at 1817 01:22:31,250 --> 01:22:29,810 and then UFOs 100 1818 01:22:33,050 --> 01:22:31,260 um don't tell Brandon that you're 1819 01:22:35,630 --> 01:22:33,060 showing up with me you want to make sure 1820 01:22:37,729 --> 01:22:35,640 that you get through the gates and then 1821 01:22:39,709 --> 01:22:37,739 I'll be right behind you and I'll sneak 1822 01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:39,719 in before the the you know the gates the 1823 01:22:49,729 --> 01:22:46,610 um uh so I I you're absolutely right and 1824 01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:49,739 after you leave a skin walker uh there's 1825 01:22:52,669 --> 01:22:51,600 blind frog Ranch there's all kinds of 1826 01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,679 other things 1827 01:22:57,530 --> 01:22:54,480 um in that area 1828 01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:57,540 um but there must okay so stop number 1829 01:23:03,290 --> 01:23:01,380 two in order of importance 1830 01:23:05,630 --> 01:23:03,300 I think from there we'll just kind of be 1831 01:23:07,790 --> 01:23:05,640 scouting out areas of the Uinta Basin 1832 01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:07,800 but then if I had to travel to a 1833 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:08,940 different state if talking about like 1834 01:23:13,729 --> 01:23:10,560 other places to visit 1835 01:23:17,209 --> 01:23:13,739 of of course Jimmy of course it's gonna 1836 01:23:20,630 --> 01:23:17,219 be the Bridgewater Triangle oh because 1837 01:23:23,090 --> 01:23:20,640 of pakwaji okay okay so that's a sorry 1838 01:23:25,610 --> 01:23:23,100 Puck that's a three-day four-day drive 1839 01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,620 across the country that I mean there's a 1840 01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:27,120 bed there there's a bathroom there's a 1841 01:23:32,990 --> 01:23:30,960 kitchen so I'm good to go okay so 1842 01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:33,000 um you're not going to strategically put 1843 01:23:39,729 --> 01:23:34,920 pins on a map and hit a bunch of things 1844 01:23:45,410 --> 01:23:42,410 Bridgewater and then swing it back down 1845 01:23:49,130 --> 01:23:45,420 to Roswell New Mexico and then go back 1846 01:23:51,950 --> 01:23:49,140 to The Serpent Mound and and then down 1847 01:23:53,209 --> 01:23:51,960 to the coral cat in in Florida you're 1848 01:23:55,550 --> 01:23:53,219 just gonna do that you're going to do 1849 01:23:58,010 --> 01:23:55,560 these huge Drive no well while I'm 1850 01:24:01,070 --> 01:23:58,020 driving from one point to another I'll 1851 01:24:03,890 --> 01:24:01,080 make those stops as well also places 1852 01:24:05,689 --> 01:24:03,900 including like Washington Oregon and 1853 01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:05,699 places that I have been given a heads up 1854 01:24:09,169 --> 01:24:07,199 on that I should check out including 1855 01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:09,179 areas of Paranormal Activity as well 1856 01:24:15,410 --> 01:24:12,000 because on only will I be looking at UFO 1857 01:24:17,870 --> 01:24:15,420 hot spots but also haunted locations and 1858 01:24:19,729 --> 01:24:17,880 I have been invited by some um TV ghost 1859 01:24:22,610 --> 01:24:19,739 hunting teams to join them on specific 1860 01:24:24,770 --> 01:24:22,620 investigations as well so while doing 1861 01:24:27,010 --> 01:24:24,780 all of these 1862 01:24:29,930 --> 01:24:27,020 um travel 1863 01:24:31,850 --> 01:24:29,940 Journeys there there will be a purpose 1864 01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:31,860 for each location that I go to and also 1865 01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:34,140 that Midway as well 1866 01:24:38,330 --> 01:24:35,460 when 1867 01:24:42,169 --> 01:24:38,340 um I I love the Cryptid part of this and 1868 01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:42,179 of course the Bigfoot but uh aspect of 1869 01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,280 your research and and your questions and 1870 01:24:50,030 --> 01:24:46,739 your interest but back when you and I 1871 01:24:52,370 --> 01:24:50,040 started uh doing shows together 1872 01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:52,380 um and you were you're working at the 1873 01:24:57,530 --> 01:24:55,860 debrief at the time and and just so that 1874 01:25:00,169 --> 01:24:57,540 everybody knows Christina and I have 1875 01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:00,179 never met we've only done this virtually 1876 01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:04,080 now for uh almost two years but 1877 01:25:10,669 --> 01:25:07,560 um I Christina first caught my attention 1878 01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,679 with the debrief and I always looked at 1879 01:25:15,530 --> 01:25:12,560 you I mean there's all the blinders on 1880 01:25:19,790 --> 01:25:15,540 but somebody with an extreme interest in 1881 01:25:21,649 --> 01:25:19,800 UFOs and and that was it that I kind of 1882 01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:21,659 that's the way I look at the debrief in 1883 01:25:27,169 --> 01:25:24,840 general anyway right that's just me I'm 1884 01:25:29,149 --> 01:25:27,179 pretty close but 1885 01:25:33,649 --> 01:25:29,159 um uh science and UFOs 1886 01:25:35,149 --> 01:25:33,659 but now that we have strung a year of 1887 01:25:38,270 --> 01:25:35,159 shows together 1888 01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:38,280 you are you've taken a right-hand turn 1889 01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:41,100 off of the freeway and are now into a 1890 01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,719 dirt road going through the middle of a 1891 01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:46,080 cornfield in search of Cryptids and and 1892 01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:49,440 everything everything cryptid-ish 1893 01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:53,520 were you into Cryptids uh growing up or 1894 01:25:58,129 --> 01:25:56,159 did this happen because of meeting 1895 01:26:01,010 --> 01:25:58,139 strange people 1896 01:26:03,770 --> 01:26:01,020 the latter definitely I mean I've always 1897 01:26:05,689 --> 01:26:03,780 liked like myths and legends those have 1898 01:26:08,330 --> 01:26:05,699 always been great but not to the extent 1899 01:26:10,430 --> 01:26:08,340 of like actually being interested fully 1900 01:26:12,530 --> 01:26:10,440 and researching Cryptids and things like 1901 01:26:14,810 --> 01:26:12,540 that and I would like to mention that 1902 01:26:16,669 --> 01:26:14,820 you bring up uh you said something that 1903 01:26:18,890 --> 01:26:16,679 is important we've never met in person 1904 01:26:21,530 --> 01:26:18,900 I've actually never met anyone in these 1905 01:26:23,390 --> 01:26:21,540 fields or topics I do not travel because 1906 01:26:28,129 --> 01:26:23,400 of school and work so I have literally 1907 01:26:33,010 --> 01:26:28,139 met nobody in the field but when looking 1908 01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,020 at the the topic of Cryptids it's it's a 1909 01:26:38,930 --> 01:26:36,000 it's it's a wild conversation to have 1910 01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:38,940 because there's a lot of locations and 1911 01:26:43,850 --> 01:26:41,340 there's a lot of locals that have local 1912 01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:43,860 stories about certain Cryptids but then 1913 01:26:47,629 --> 01:26:46,080 if you go into like areas like the big 1914 01:26:49,070 --> 01:26:47,639 city they're going to be like nah those 1915 01:26:51,050 --> 01:26:49,080 are not real never heard of I'd never 1916 01:26:54,010 --> 01:26:51,060 grew up with those stories so it really 1917 01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:54,020 just depends on where you grew up and 1918 01:26:58,610 --> 01:26:56,460 your environment or you're surrounded by 1919 01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:58,620 to get those types of interests while 1920 01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:00,960 I've always been interested in like the 1921 01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:03,120 Unexplained but more specifically with 1922 01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:04,320 UFOs 1923 01:27:10,010 --> 01:27:07,679 I didn't expect like if I were to talk 1924 01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:10,020 to myself two years ago 1925 01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:12,480 I wouldn't expect to have a conversation 1926 01:27:18,410 --> 01:27:15,360 about Cryptids but I do find the reports 1927 01:27:21,770 --> 01:27:18,420 of Cryptids at the same time as UFOs 1928 01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,780 being seen incredibly fascinating 1929 01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:24,000 and and it and it's more common than 1930 01:27:27,470 --> 01:27:25,940 you'd think 1931 01:27:28,990 --> 01:27:27,480 when 1932 01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:29,000 um I mean 1933 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:31,199 when I grew up 1934 01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:34,080 and and I realized that I've got a few 1935 01:27:39,709 --> 01:27:36,960 decades on you but when I grew up we 1936 01:27:42,169 --> 01:27:39,719 were talking about the the same 1937 01:27:45,110 --> 01:27:42,179 creatures the same ideas that we talk 1938 01:27:47,810 --> 01:27:45,120 about today when when I was growing up 1939 01:27:49,729 --> 01:27:47,820 and you know TV shows like sightings and 1940 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:49,739 and and whatever 1941 01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:52,560 um in the 70s it was about Bigfoot and 1942 01:27:59,090 --> 01:27:55,679 the Loch Ness monster and and and and 1943 01:28:02,149 --> 01:27:59,100 ghosts in the Paranormal and and and and 1944 01:28:04,850 --> 01:28:02,159 and things right that that's just and 1945 01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:04,860 and the sightings were everywhere 1946 01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,199 um chupacabras when that kicked off I'm 1947 01:28:12,129 --> 01:28:09,600 not looking up the dates right now but 1948 01:28:16,669 --> 01:28:12,139 my memory says that that was that was 1949 01:28:18,770 --> 01:28:16,679 1980 81-82 somewhere in there I know by 1950 01:28:20,689 --> 01:28:18,780 the time I came to California in 85 1951 01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:20,699 chupacabras were everywhere I mean the 1952 01:28:27,229 --> 01:28:23,040 whole conversation about it 1953 01:28:28,610 --> 01:28:27,239 um uh throughout going from uh uh I 1954 01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:28,620 think it started in Puerto Rico 1955 01:28:33,410 --> 01:28:31,679 somewhere over there Cuba and and 1956 01:28:35,330 --> 01:28:33,420 eventually you had reports that were 1957 01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:35,340 happening all over Central America and 1958 01:28:41,149 --> 01:28:37,320 then over in New Mexico but these 1959 01:28:44,090 --> 01:28:41,159 reports were were there chupacabra is 1960 01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,100 not some Modern thing 1961 01:28:49,729 --> 01:28:46,320 um and these myths and legends that we 1962 01:28:52,129 --> 01:28:49,739 cover on your show from different in in 1963 01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:52,139 indigenous cultures this goes back 1964 01:28:56,689 --> 01:28:53,760 thousands of years 1965 01:28:58,490 --> 01:28:56,699 um Cryptids are not something new no no 1966 01:29:02,390 --> 01:28:58,500 they have been told throughout history 1967 01:29:04,550 --> 01:29:02,400 from generation to generation and one 1968 01:29:08,090 --> 01:29:04,560 thing about chupacabras and while why 1969 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,100 they're special to me not because I'm 1970 01:29:12,410 --> 01:29:10,320 familiar with the topic which I am not 1971 01:29:14,750 --> 01:29:12,420 at all even though we've very briefly 1972 01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:14,760 covered it together once for one show 1973 01:29:20,930 --> 01:29:17,760 but it's actually because I was exposed 1974 01:29:23,450 --> 01:29:20,940 to that topic of chupacabras because of 1975 01:29:26,689 --> 01:29:23,460 one episode of Scooby-Doo where they did 1976 01:29:29,629 --> 01:29:26,699 like this whole case in Mexico and they 1977 01:29:32,450 --> 01:29:29,639 spoke about chupacabras and that was the 1978 01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:32,460 first time I was ever exposed to these 1979 01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:34,320 Cryptids and then of course they pulled 1980 01:29:38,270 --> 01:29:35,880 off the mask and it was actually a 1981 01:29:40,850 --> 01:29:38,280 person and it wasn't a chupacabra but 1982 01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:40,860 that that's why for me that particular 1983 01:29:46,610 --> 01:29:43,679 topic is is dear to my heart is because 1984 01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:46,620 I grew up on Scooby-Doo loved that show 1985 01:29:50,450 --> 01:29:48,719 and it was because of them I got exposed 1986 01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:50,460 to it I'm looking at it right here 1987 01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,239 Scooby-Doo and the monster of Mexico yes 1988 01:30:00,290 --> 01:29:56,880 it was such a great movie you know I did 1989 01:30:06,830 --> 01:30:00,300 not I did not no I'm looking at it right 1990 01:30:09,970 --> 01:30:06,840 here good and uh yeah really it's really 1991 01:30:13,250 --> 01:30:09,980 good I haven't seen it in decades 1992 01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:13,260 who knew who knew but they would do that 1993 01:30:21,530 --> 01:30:18,000 a lot of uh if if you go back to 1994 01:30:23,390 --> 01:30:21,540 um Johnny Quest uh certainly Scooby-Doo 1995 01:30:25,250 --> 01:30:23,400 but uh there were different shows I 1996 01:30:27,649 --> 01:30:25,260 remember specifically Johnny Quest they 1997 01:30:30,350 --> 01:30:27,659 had a whole this whole Bigfoot uh 1998 01:30:32,270 --> 01:30:30,360 episode and Bigfoot was yeah you know 1999 01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:32,280 terrorizing this this town and 2000 01:30:38,209 --> 01:30:36,000 specifically this this mansion and in 2001 01:30:40,850 --> 01:30:38,219 the end right they pull it on it's a 2002 01:30:42,050 --> 01:30:40,860 it's a costume and it's the you know 2003 01:30:45,709 --> 01:30:42,060 whatever 2004 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:45,719 um but the whole episode was our uh uh 2005 01:30:51,050 --> 01:30:48,540 Bigfoot uh terrorizing everybody in it 2006 01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:51,060 it turned out but this is this is what 2007 01:30:55,870 --> 01:30:52,320 kids are taught 2008 01:30:59,090 --> 01:30:55,880 right you see this in a cartoon 2009 01:31:01,850 --> 01:30:59,100 and now it's not about Bigfoot being 2010 01:31:05,209 --> 01:31:01,860 hoaxed and it's a mask no you're just 2011 01:31:06,770 --> 01:31:05,219 being taught about Bigfoot exactly yeah 2012 01:31:08,510 --> 01:31:06,780 you're being taught about monsters and 2013 01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:08,520 chupacabra 2014 01:31:13,610 --> 01:31:10,980 exactly and what what makes me take a 2015 01:31:16,370 --> 01:31:13,620 breath Jimmy is when I think I have a 2016 01:31:18,350 --> 01:31:16,380 handle on all these mysterious topics a 2017 01:31:21,290 --> 01:31:18,360 new rabbit hole comes along and this 2018 01:31:24,530 --> 01:31:21,300 happens literally every single week with 2019 01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:24,540 guest interviews the show we do and live 2020 01:31:30,169 --> 01:31:27,900 like we live in such a strange and 2021 01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:30,179 Mysterious World and it's exciting and 2022 01:31:36,169 --> 01:31:32,340 it keeps my mind definitely sharp and 2023 01:31:40,370 --> 01:31:36,179 curious and I want my peers people in my 2024 01:31:43,070 --> 01:31:40,380 age group to get into these questions to 2025 01:31:44,750 --> 01:31:43,080 try and have these discussions with 2026 01:31:48,770 --> 01:31:44,760 friends or other students at University 2027 01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:48,780 if it is practically impossible and they 2028 01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:51,600 don't want to unless they have smoked 2029 01:31:57,229 --> 01:31:54,719 something first but then you have 2030 01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:57,239 this community that you've created that 2031 01:32:01,790 --> 01:31:59,280 I've created where we can have these 2032 01:32:05,450 --> 01:32:01,800 conversations so freely and I want to 2033 01:32:08,750 --> 01:32:05,460 get more young minds into these topics 2034 01:32:12,050 --> 01:32:08,760 into these communities because as we 2035 01:32:15,050 --> 01:32:12,060 hear with every single generation is 2036 01:32:17,570 --> 01:32:15,060 that our children are our future and if 2037 01:32:19,070 --> 01:32:17,580 we educate them right our future will be 2038 01:32:22,370 --> 01:32:19,080 bright 2039 01:32:25,310 --> 01:32:22,380 Scooby-Doo meets El Chupacabra 2040 01:32:26,810 --> 01:32:25,320 you should see the chupacabra chasing uh 2041 01:32:30,649 --> 01:32:26,820 the Mystery Machine 2042 01:32:32,930 --> 01:32:30,659 the van oh man it's just so classic it 2043 01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:32,940 won't let me download it I hate that I 2044 01:32:40,430 --> 01:32:36,560 want to download it to everybody but uh 2045 01:32:43,870 --> 01:32:40,440 it's pretty it's pretty classic man it 2046 01:32:47,090 --> 01:32:43,880 is pretty classic and if I um 2047 01:32:49,370 --> 01:32:47,100 uh you know what since they won't let me 2048 01:32:52,910 --> 01:32:49,380 download it you know since they're 2049 01:32:54,129 --> 01:32:52,920 playing hard to get I do it my own way I 2050 01:32:57,350 --> 01:32:54,139 have technology 2051 01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:57,360 that's the way to do it 2052 01:33:02,930 --> 01:32:59,280 this is the way to do it you go like 2053 01:33:07,610 --> 01:33:05,629 could be two in the Mystery Machine 2054 01:33:09,649 --> 01:33:07,620 I mean tell me 2055 01:33:13,129 --> 01:33:09,659 that that isn't the coolest thing ever 2056 01:33:17,810 --> 01:33:13,139 everybody Scooby-Doo it's the best it's 2057 01:33:22,970 --> 01:33:20,810 how cool is that it goes to show how 2058 01:33:24,410 --> 01:33:22,980 influential TV shows actually are 2059 01:33:26,330 --> 01:33:24,420 because that stuck with me and I watched 2060 01:33:29,689 --> 01:33:26,340 that when I was like I don't know six 2061 01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:29,699 seven eight maybe we can still you're 2062 01:33:34,430 --> 01:33:31,679 gonna go to your mom your dad hey my you 2063 01:33:38,090 --> 01:33:34,440 know hey Mom what's a chupacabra 2064 01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,100 right you're going to do that 2065 01:33:42,110 --> 01:33:40,800 um uh somebody posted I forget what it 2066 01:33:45,890 --> 01:33:42,120 was in search of 2067 01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:45,900 and that show uh did more for me 2068 01:33:48,970 --> 01:33:47,520 Christina 2069 01:33:52,510 --> 01:33:48,980 um uh 2070 01:33:55,430 --> 01:33:52,520 exposing me to all kinds of crazy stuff 2071 01:33:57,950 --> 01:33:55,440 and it was right there for you I know 2072 01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:57,960 you said Scooby-Doo that meets El 2073 01:34:03,050 --> 01:34:00,960 Chupacabra but did you watch any uh of 2074 01:34:06,350 --> 01:34:03,060 this investigative TV like sightings or 2075 01:34:07,850 --> 01:34:06,360 in search of or or what Ancient Aliens 2076 01:34:11,510 --> 01:34:07,860 did you watch any of the stuff growing 2077 01:34:15,470 --> 01:34:11,520 up so I've only recently been I've 2078 01:34:18,169 --> 01:34:15,480 watched in in search of but how much 2079 01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:18,179 better can it get to have Spock talk 2080 01:34:22,910 --> 01:34:20,580 about these Mysteries Leonard Nimoy I 2081 01:34:25,610 --> 01:34:22,920 mean it cannot get better than that yeah 2082 01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:25,620 it's true um which is amazing 2083 01:34:30,410 --> 01:34:27,960 um I have watched Ancient Aliens funny 2084 01:34:31,310 --> 01:34:30,420 enough my mom is a big fan of the TV 2085 01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:31,320 show 2086 01:34:36,830 --> 01:34:35,040 she loves it excuse me but I also really 2087 01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:36,840 got interested in the Unexplained 2088 01:34:41,090 --> 01:34:39,120 through the TV show The Twilight Zone it 2089 01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:41,100 was my father who got me into that and 2090 01:34:45,169 --> 01:34:43,199 they have a marathon on the Sci-Fi 2091 01:34:48,830 --> 01:34:45,179 channel every single New Year for like 2092 01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:48,840 48 hours so you know what I was doing 2093 01:34:54,470 --> 01:34:51,360 over the new year I was watching that 2094 01:34:57,649 --> 01:34:54,480 but it's it's it's because of Television 2095 01:35:00,050 --> 01:34:57,659 because of movies that so many people 2096 01:35:01,850 --> 01:35:00,060 have these interests more so than just 2097 01:35:04,310 --> 01:35:01,860 having like your day-to-day conversation 2098 01:35:06,169 --> 01:35:04,320 at the grocery store or at school for 2099 01:35:09,169 --> 01:35:06,179 instance you're probably gonna learn 2100 01:35:11,149 --> 01:35:09,179 more or or have your interests sparked 2101 01:35:13,490 --> 01:35:11,159 through television while it can be 2102 01:35:16,729 --> 01:35:13,500 disappointing to say for some 2103 01:35:19,550 --> 01:35:16,739 it's the truth at this point 2104 01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:19,560 call your RV 2105 01:35:26,870 --> 01:35:23,840 the Mystery Machine see that but 2106 01:35:28,850 --> 01:35:26,880 it's not unique I had people give me 2107 01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:28,860 names like the ramen wagon because I 2108 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:33,480 have a huge love for Robin or even like 2109 01:35:38,930 --> 01:35:36,480 the ramen Enigma which whenever the word 2110 01:35:40,910 --> 01:35:38,940 okay talking about these connections the 2111 01:35:44,750 --> 01:35:40,920 word enigma I learned that from 2112 01:35:46,490 --> 01:35:44,760 SpongeBob when Patrick said my mind is 2113 01:35:48,590 --> 01:35:46,500 an enigma and then he's like is 2114 01:35:51,530 --> 01:35:48,600 mayonnaise an instrument and it's 2115 01:35:54,410 --> 01:35:51,540 because of him I figured out what Enigma 2116 01:35:55,629 --> 01:35:54,420 meant at the age of like six I just 2117 01:35:59,570 --> 01:35:55,639 thought of it 2118 01:36:03,350 --> 01:35:59,580 rendezvous with Ramen 2119 01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:03,360 that's a cool name that's a cool one and 2120 01:36:07,490 --> 01:36:04,800 for those of you out there you know 2121 01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:07,500 where I stole it from don't don't give 2122 01:36:14,209 --> 01:36:10,260 it away here in the chat just let me 2123 01:36:17,810 --> 01:36:14,219 enjoy my own genius and uh theatrics is 2124 01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:17,820 is half of the sale but that's true what 2125 01:36:25,129 --> 01:36:22,560 is it though uh I I am so curious 2126 01:36:28,189 --> 01:36:25,139 um and at this point you can ask me the 2127 01:36:32,450 --> 01:36:28,199 same question okay which is fine uh you 2128 01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:32,460 can you can uh lob it back at me but 2129 01:36:39,169 --> 01:36:35,520 since you started Broadcasting 2130 01:36:43,090 --> 01:36:39,179 what is it that you have learned 2131 01:36:46,669 --> 01:36:43,100 a lot I've learned a lot to better 2132 01:36:47,810 --> 01:36:46,679 present myself because when you're 2133 01:36:53,090 --> 01:36:47,820 talking 2134 01:36:55,250 --> 01:36:53,100 to a person so that takes a learning 2135 01:36:57,110 --> 01:36:55,260 curve I had mentioned at the very first 2136 01:36:58,970 --> 01:36:57,120 show we did what a year two years ago 2137 01:37:02,510 --> 01:36:58,980 now I don't even remember 2138 01:37:04,250 --> 01:37:02,520 um I had mentioned how I suffer with the 2139 01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:04,260 speech impediment I grew up having 2140 01:37:09,110 --> 01:37:06,960 speech issues having a stutter 2141 01:37:11,689 --> 01:37:09,120 um also eating the ends of my words I 2142 01:37:16,490 --> 01:37:11,699 also have dyslexia and verbal dyslexia 2143 01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:16,500 and it's with doing these shows several 2144 01:37:23,149 --> 01:37:19,679 times a week it is challenged me to 2145 01:37:25,729 --> 01:37:23,159 overcome those things because it in my 2146 01:37:27,470 --> 01:37:25,739 opinion it makes me look uneducated 2147 01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:27,480 which is super unfortunate and there's 2148 01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:29,040 actually a lot of people who go through 2149 01:37:34,189 --> 01:37:30,960 stuff like that and they're actually 2150 01:37:35,950 --> 01:37:34,199 incredibly smart but when you're not 2151 01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:35,960 able to 2152 01:37:40,669 --> 01:37:38,639 convey your thoughts properly even 2153 01:37:43,129 --> 01:37:40,679 though it sounds great in here when you 2154 01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:43,139 bring it out into words it's an absolute 2155 01:37:49,850 --> 01:37:46,560 mess so for me doing these shows having 2156 01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:49,860 to talk so many times of the day has 2157 01:37:55,310 --> 01:37:52,800 been very beneficial to me 2158 01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:55,320 in that sense along with learning how to 2159 01:37:59,930 --> 01:37:59,040 be a better researcher to to find 2160 01:38:02,030 --> 01:37:59,940 um 2161 01:38:03,770 --> 01:38:02,040 valuable information but also 2162 01:38:05,689 --> 01:38:03,780 information that has been vetted as well 2163 01:38:08,090 --> 01:38:05,699 versus just pulling off anything online 2164 01:38:11,930 --> 01:38:08,100 on some suspicious website and stating 2165 01:38:15,470 --> 01:38:11,940 okay this is fact as well but also even 2166 01:38:18,050 --> 01:38:15,480 in the show Shifting the Paradigm Jimmy 2167 01:38:19,490 --> 01:38:18,060 it's not easy being a host and you know 2168 01:38:21,649 --> 01:38:19,500 this you learned it from experience 2169 01:38:24,770 --> 01:38:21,659 doing it for the last 10 years or so 2170 01:38:27,350 --> 01:38:24,780 where you have to find your groove you 2171 01:38:29,390 --> 01:38:27,360 have to find what questions you want to 2172 01:38:32,689 --> 01:38:29,400 ask and you have to find how you're 2173 01:38:34,850 --> 01:38:32,699 going to gel with in some senses a total 2174 01:38:36,770 --> 01:38:34,860 stranger that you know a little bit of 2175 01:38:39,709 --> 01:38:36,780 their work but you don't really know 2176 01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:39,719 them so to be able to kind of feel it 2177 01:38:43,250 --> 01:38:41,760 out to be able to communicate with 2178 01:38:46,490 --> 01:38:43,260 someone especially if you're not 2179 01:38:49,910 --> 01:38:46,500 necessarily an extrovert that takes time 2180 01:38:51,470 --> 01:38:49,920 as well but being being a host hosting a 2181 01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:51,480 radio show 2182 01:38:59,050 --> 01:38:54,960 is a lot harder than people expect or 2183 01:39:01,970 --> 01:38:59,060 doing a live stream by yourself 2184 01:39:04,669 --> 01:39:01,980 you've done that time and time again and 2185 01:39:06,290 --> 01:39:04,679 it takes a lot of work and the first one 2186 01:39:09,709 --> 01:39:06,300 or two times that you do it you're like 2187 01:39:11,870 --> 01:39:09,719 how are people doing this this is really 2188 01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:11,880 really hard because you because you 2189 01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,440 could only relay on your rely on 2190 01:39:20,689 --> 01:39:15,840 yourself for that information well 2191 01:39:24,050 --> 01:39:20,699 there's two ways uh to do uh a show 2192 01:39:27,229 --> 01:39:24,060 so the correct way and it doesn't matter 2193 01:39:31,310 --> 01:39:27,239 if we're talking about Fox television or 2194 01:39:33,410 --> 01:39:31,320 CNN or or or what we're doing here it it 2195 01:39:36,410 --> 01:39:33,420 it doesn't matter there's two ways to 2196 01:39:38,570 --> 01:39:36,420 approach it one where you're doing work 2197 01:39:40,669 --> 01:39:38,580 and you're researching and you're 2198 01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:40,679 investigating and and pushing forward 2199 01:39:49,010 --> 01:39:45,199 that's one the other one is the simple 2200 01:39:51,770 --> 01:39:49,020 uh doofus way through this that you're 2201 01:39:54,430 --> 01:39:51,780 just going to uh not do any 2202 01:39:59,110 --> 01:39:54,440 investigating you're just going to 2203 01:40:02,930 --> 01:39:59,120 complain and and point fingers right and 2204 01:40:06,050 --> 01:40:02,940 there are when you look at 2205 01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:06,060 um historically uh DJs I'm talking about 2206 01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:09,360 people on the radio in the past you had 2207 01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:12,960 uh you know some of these loud voices 2208 01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:16,080 that that that think that that's 2209 01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,760 effective and people are interested in 2210 01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:19,440 that and they just last for a little bit 2211 01:40:25,550 --> 01:40:22,080 and they they come and go so the ones 2212 01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:25,560 with legs Christina are the hosts that 2213 01:40:29,330 --> 01:40:26,639 learn 2214 01:40:31,550 --> 01:40:29,340 because they are out there 2215 01:40:32,930 --> 01:40:31,560 um pushing and investigating and they 2216 01:40:34,729 --> 01:40:32,940 they end up with this wealth of 2217 01:40:37,490 --> 01:40:34,739 knowledge that as they move along in 2218 01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:37,500 their career they are able to ask 2219 01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:40,560 questions based on a pile of Knowledge 2220 01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:44,159 from their research and that is what 2221 01:40:49,010 --> 01:40:46,080 people are interested in they want to 2222 01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:49,020 tap into that that knowledge and that's 2223 01:40:53,810 --> 01:40:51,600 a tough thing it's it's so much work 2224 01:40:56,330 --> 01:40:53,820 that most people don't do it because 2225 01:40:59,030 --> 01:40:56,340 they're frightened uh about the worth 2226 01:41:01,010 --> 01:40:59,040 work ethic that is involved with that 2227 01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:01,020 you know when you look at somebody you 2228 01:41:06,169 --> 01:41:02,639 know you know who I'm uh really 2229 01:41:08,750 --> 01:41:06,179 impressed with there's many but you look 2230 01:41:12,890 --> 01:41:08,760 at a guy like Geraldo Rivera 2231 01:41:15,530 --> 01:41:12,900 right who that guy was one of the 2232 01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:15,540 smartest or he is one of the smartest 2233 01:41:21,649 --> 01:41:18,239 people out there because he was he was 2234 01:41:24,890 --> 01:41:21,659 out there trying to learn and trying to 2235 01:41:27,910 --> 01:41:24,900 his career goes back to the 60s 2236 01:41:30,590 --> 01:41:27,920 you know when he was a kid and and and 2237 01:41:32,870 --> 01:41:30,600 that kind of work ethic that kind of 2238 01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:32,880 career where he pounded that for years 2239 01:41:35,870 --> 01:41:34,800 and years and years and years most 2240 01:41:38,510 --> 01:41:35,880 people don't have that kind of 2241 01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:38,520 discipline and they they just don't have 2242 01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:39,840 that 2243 01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:42,719 um you doing three four five shows a 2244 01:41:48,109 --> 01:41:45,840 week week after week after week after 2245 01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:48,119 week and everything that's about that 2246 01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:50,400 scares people that scares that it's a 2247 01:41:54,290 --> 01:41:53,040 work ethic that uh most people just 2248 01:41:55,970 --> 01:41:54,300 don't have they don't have that kind of 2249 01:41:58,010 --> 01:41:55,980 discipline I certainly didn't have it 2250 01:42:01,250 --> 01:41:58,020 for a long time but look at you now 2251 01:42:04,970 --> 01:42:01,260 doing four shows a week two hours each 2252 01:42:06,649 --> 01:42:04,980 show people Jimmy it takes a lot of work 2253 01:42:07,910 --> 01:42:06,659 but when you're watching it on the 2254 01:42:09,169 --> 01:42:07,920 sidelines you're like oh this is easy 2255 01:42:11,330 --> 01:42:09,179 and then you jump into it and you're 2256 01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:11,340 like this this is this is not it's not 2257 01:42:15,169 --> 01:42:12,480 for everyone 2258 01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:15,179 and but it's something that when you 2259 01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,400 enjoy it you'll stick with it if you 2260 01:42:21,709 --> 01:42:19,440 have that consistency that patience and 2261 01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:21,719 that determination you'll continue and 2262 01:42:26,930 --> 01:42:23,760 if you're willing to learn about the 2263 01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:26,940 topic as you go along you gotta study 2264 01:42:30,890 --> 01:42:28,920 foundation for you 2265 01:42:32,810 --> 01:42:30,900 but also having a good Community around 2266 01:42:36,109 --> 01:42:32,820 you as well like having people that 2267 01:42:38,990 --> 01:42:36,119 support you and that give you advice as 2268 01:42:41,090 --> 01:42:39,000 well yeah that somebody just sent us on 2269 01:42:44,149 --> 01:42:41,100 the opening of Al Capone's vault you 2270 01:42:46,430 --> 01:42:44,159 know what Geraldo Rivera one of the 2271 01:42:48,169 --> 01:42:46,440 classic moments in all of TV history but 2272 01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:48,179 you know what he did the dance really 2273 01:42:52,729 --> 01:42:50,400 well they did this big live special 2274 01:42:55,790 --> 01:42:52,739 Geraldo Rivera right he was going to go 2275 01:43:00,010 --> 01:42:55,800 and they were going to open Al Capone Al 2276 01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:00,020 Capone's vault live on TV 2277 01:43:05,450 --> 01:43:03,119 hey man I forget man but I think half of 2278 01:43:07,129 --> 01:43:05,460 the world including myself was watching 2279 01:43:15,620 --> 01:43:07,139 that night 2280 01:43:22,729 --> 01:43:18,649 [Music] 2281 01:43:24,350 --> 01:43:22,739 right yeah you're like yeah now what how 2282 01:43:25,970 --> 01:43:24,360 did they handle it what did they what 2283 01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:25,980 what skills that they bring with them 2284 01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:28,800 you know it's I I you know you know what 2285 01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:30,840 I remember most 2286 01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:33,540 about that I wish I had the video I I 2287 01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:36,719 really do was uh geraldo's face I mean 2288 01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,840 for like two or three seconds he was 2289 01:43:46,669 --> 01:43:42,000 like 2290 01:43:50,270 --> 01:43:46,679 okay uh he probably had a producer in 2291 01:43:53,689 --> 01:43:50,280 his ear going okay stretch it out man 2292 01:43:55,850 --> 01:43:53,699 stretch it out and uh Geraldo and 2293 01:43:58,970 --> 01:43:55,860 they're doing that dance man you know 2294 01:44:01,250 --> 01:43:58,980 for the next 45 minutes 2295 01:44:03,290 --> 01:44:01,260 it was awesome it was awesome 2296 01:44:05,090 --> 01:44:03,300 it was awesome yeah hold on hold on 2297 01:44:06,830 --> 01:44:05,100 let's see here I'm getting him yeah yeah 2298 01:44:09,530 --> 01:44:06,840 they broke through some wall where he's 2299 01:44:13,970 --> 01:44:09,540 supposedly buried nothing that's exactly 2300 01:44:15,709 --> 01:44:13,980 right hold on hold on this is great 2301 01:44:17,750 --> 01:44:15,719 um let's see 2302 01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:17,760 I remember there was dirt and beer 2303 01:44:26,270 --> 01:44:19,760 bottles yes 2304 01:44:31,070 --> 01:44:26,280 oh man this is uh uh see it was it was 2305 01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:31,080 um what year was this oh oof or like ish 2306 01:44:36,189 --> 01:44:33,320 just like give me like a range 2307 01:44:40,070 --> 01:44:36,199 19. I'm gonna say 2308 01:44:42,169 --> 01:44:40,080 80. let's go over the 80 81 82. like oh 2309 01:44:43,850 --> 01:44:42,179 okay hold on hold on we can find this 2310 01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:43,860 thing 2311 01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:48,830 Capone's vaults 2312 01:44:55,129 --> 01:44:51,600 American television program right here 2313 01:44:57,169 --> 01:44:55,139 uh somebody just said late 80s I I'm not 2314 01:45:02,330 --> 01:44:57,179 so 86. 2315 01:45:03,950 --> 01:45:02,340 okay I said 80 80 81 82s 86. I think I I 2316 01:45:06,890 --> 01:45:03,960 need to watch this 2317 01:45:09,950 --> 01:45:06,900 oh it's it's it's classic it's classic 2318 01:45:12,590 --> 01:45:09,960 Jamie just said I was 12 years old 2319 01:45:17,870 --> 01:45:12,600 um yeah there's an 86 in here 2320 01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:17,880 86 86 it was I'm telling you right now 2321 01:45:25,010 --> 01:45:22,320 um a 5.0 5 star ratings there you go I 2322 01:45:28,189 --> 01:45:25,020 mean it was classic it was definitely 2323 01:45:29,570 --> 01:45:28,199 classic so many people say you know this 2324 01:45:30,890 --> 01:45:29,580 is the truth 2325 01:45:33,890 --> 01:45:30,900 um 2326 01:45:36,109 --> 01:45:33,900 take with you uh for the rest of your 2327 01:45:38,689 --> 01:45:36,119 career there are so many people when it 2328 01:45:41,209 --> 01:45:38,699 uh when it comes to Geraldo Rivera 2329 01:45:43,689 --> 01:45:41,219 because we kind of use them as a as a 2330 01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:43,699 barometer you can really gauge things 2331 01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:47,760 at one point uh for probably 15 20 years 2332 01:45:53,450 --> 01:45:50,880 he owned he owned America there's no 2333 01:45:56,270 --> 01:45:53,460 question about it Geraldo owned it owned 2334 01:45:58,850 --> 01:45:56,280 it very successful and people would go 2335 01:46:00,590 --> 01:45:58,860 yeah he did it because he did this or he 2336 01:46:02,030 --> 01:46:00,600 did this and there was the moment he did 2337 01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:02,040 this and then there was this thing that 2338 01:46:06,169 --> 01:46:04,560 he dated in Staten Island then there was 2339 01:46:08,450 --> 01:46:06,179 this thing he did in Manhattan and then 2340 01:46:10,189 --> 01:46:08,460 there was his thing and then the 2341 01:46:13,070 --> 01:46:10,199 throwing the chairs and that that 2342 01:46:17,330 --> 01:46:13,080 there's all of these things but that's 2343 01:46:20,590 --> 01:46:17,340 that was Geraldo and there are people 2344 01:46:22,910 --> 01:46:20,600 that will go to this Al Capone's fault 2345 01:46:25,910 --> 01:46:22,920 and they'll talk about 2346 01:46:27,709 --> 01:46:25,920 oh it was empty you know what that 2347 01:46:31,010 --> 01:46:27,719 moment on that show was television 2348 01:46:34,010 --> 01:46:31,020 history and it was his recovery on that 2349 01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:34,020 and that's what you do in live 2350 01:46:38,930 --> 01:46:35,760 and live streaming 2351 01:46:42,590 --> 01:46:38,940 that's what you do at a moment you know 2352 01:46:47,149 --> 01:46:42,600 where uh you've got to 2353 01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:49,370 you got a bob and weave and nothing can 2354 01:46:55,729 --> 01:46:51,679 prep you for it until it happens 2355 01:47:00,050 --> 01:46:55,739 you have to Bob and weave 2356 01:47:02,330 --> 01:47:00,060 um I learned it uh so so early on 2357 01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:02,340 um even before I did Fade to Black you 2358 01:47:08,450 --> 01:47:03,600 know and 2359 01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:08,460 um is is to be able to dance and land on 2360 01:47:13,729 --> 01:47:11,280 your feet and and keep on going and and 2361 01:47:16,310 --> 01:47:13,739 don't let don't let things affect you or 2362 01:47:18,669 --> 01:47:16,320 throw you off like the way that Geraldo 2363 01:47:21,770 --> 01:47:18,679 opens up you know breaks through things 2364 01:47:26,209 --> 01:47:21,780 the Vault they open up it's empty there 2365 01:47:29,149 --> 01:47:26,219 was so much hype behind uh uh 2366 01:47:30,350 --> 01:47:29,159 um Al Capone's vault right that you know 2367 01:47:33,050 --> 01:47:30,360 the riches that were going to be there 2368 01:47:34,970 --> 01:47:33,060 whatever machine guns dead bodies what 2369 01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:34,980 you know Al Capone himself I don't know 2370 01:47:39,050 --> 01:47:37,199 but there was so much hype behind it and 2371 01:47:41,689 --> 01:47:39,060 everybody was speculating Christina 2372 01:47:43,970 --> 01:47:41,699 right hey of course you are yeah and so 2373 01:47:46,970 --> 01:47:43,980 was Geraldo 2374 01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:46,980 you know and and he was dreaming and 2375 01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:49,679 thinking about there was so much drama 2376 01:47:54,770 --> 01:47:51,600 and hype and commercials and things 2377 01:47:56,530 --> 01:47:54,780 built up behind it that even for Geraldo 2378 01:48:01,129 --> 01:47:56,540 I don't think that's what he expected 2379 01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:01,139 nothing right dirt and a couple of old 2380 01:48:05,570 --> 01:48:03,360 Milwaukee beer cans 2381 01:48:07,370 --> 01:48:05,580 it kind of sucks so how do you recover 2382 01:48:10,729 --> 01:48:07,380 from that and that's what you do that's 2383 01:48:13,550 --> 01:48:10,739 what you do you know are you going to um 2384 01:48:16,430 --> 01:48:13,560 speaking of dancing you got a finesse it 2385 01:48:19,129 --> 01:48:16,440 and and uh yeah and and bobbin and 2386 01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:19,139 weaving are you going to um are you 2387 01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:21,360 going to live stream in the RV 2388 01:48:26,090 --> 01:48:24,480 yeah yes it's gonna be part of it not 2389 01:48:27,950 --> 01:48:26,100 just shoot you're gonna lie exactly 2390 01:48:31,850 --> 01:48:27,960 there'll also be live streaming involved 2391 01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:31,860 in the RV and in nature if reception is 2392 01:48:39,649 --> 01:48:34,560 possible as well let me ask you a 2393 01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:39,659 question if um if a network came to you 2394 01:48:43,310 --> 01:48:41,520 you know is somebody listening to this 2395 01:48:45,229 --> 01:48:43,320 show right now and the network came to 2396 01:48:46,669 --> 01:48:45,239 you and said you know I heard you uh you 2397 01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:46,679 know talk about this with Jimmy church 2398 01:48:52,070 --> 01:48:49,920 and we would like to uh we would like to 2399 01:48:53,930 --> 01:48:52,080 be a part of this 2400 01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:53,940 um would you allow a network to come in 2401 01:48:58,850 --> 01:48:56,159 and do that intrusion into your life and 2402 01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:58,860 and document this cross-country uh 2403 01:49:02,270 --> 01:49:00,239 Adventure 2404 01:49:05,149 --> 01:49:02,280 I like to do things my way 2405 01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:05,159 right so you're saying no so I'm just 2406 01:49:08,810 --> 01:49:06,719 not sure about it that would have to be 2407 01:49:11,930 --> 01:49:08,820 like really 2408 01:49:13,490 --> 01:49:11,940 really good reasons for it but I want to 2409 01:49:15,470 --> 01:49:13,500 create something that I have full 2410 01:49:18,109 --> 01:49:15,480 control over and something also that I'm 2411 01:49:20,810 --> 01:49:18,119 proud of as well I don't want to create 2412 01:49:23,149 --> 01:49:20,820 some BS content or just merely 2413 01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:23,159 entertainment content that has no value 2414 01:49:30,109 --> 01:49:27,360 the goal to all of my shows is to 2415 01:49:33,229 --> 01:49:30,119 educate and then secondly to entertain 2416 01:49:36,050 --> 01:49:33,239 but education comes first so streaming 2417 01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:36,060 independently on the internet it seems 2418 01:49:40,850 --> 01:49:38,159 like a better deal building your own 2419 01:49:43,129 --> 01:49:40,860 Community more so than working with 2420 01:49:46,189 --> 01:49:43,139 television now could that 2421 01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:46,199 could that change possibly I don't know 2422 01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:49,199 at this point in time but I do like what 2423 01:49:54,530 --> 01:49:51,360 I'm doing now being able to talk to my 2424 01:49:57,290 --> 01:49:54,540 listeners replying to their comments uh 2425 01:50:00,350 --> 01:49:57,300 talking to those who have questions and 2426 01:50:03,950 --> 01:50:00,360 having that more one-on-one interaction 2427 01:50:05,689 --> 01:50:03,960 more so than just being on TV I like to 2428 01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:05,699 be independent 2429 01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:07,800 I had said 2430 01:50:14,750 --> 01:50:10,320 um and I'll be uh sort of specific here 2431 01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:14,760 but I had said to the head the head 2432 01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:18,000 of one of the big big networks so it 2433 01:50:21,109 --> 01:50:19,679 might have been ABC might have been CBS 2434 01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,119 NBC it might have been Fox might have 2435 01:50:25,129 --> 01:50:23,040 been Disney might have been Discovery it 2436 01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,139 doesn't matter right just the head of a 2437 01:50:30,709 --> 01:50:27,360 network right Viacom pick a network 2438 01:50:33,590 --> 01:50:30,719 doesn't matter the head of one of those 2439 01:50:35,149 --> 01:50:33,600 and uh 2440 01:50:37,550 --> 01:50:35,159 and they go so what do you what do you 2441 01:50:40,490 --> 01:50:37,560 want to do you know and I just graduated 2442 01:50:42,770 --> 01:50:40,500 you know I said well Ben I want to be I 2443 01:50:43,790 --> 01:50:42,780 want to be I want to be a voice for the 2444 01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:43,800 people 2445 01:50:48,649 --> 01:50:46,080 and I watched his reaction what do you 2446 01:50:51,290 --> 01:50:48,659 mean well you know man I just I want to 2447 01:50:54,050 --> 01:50:51,300 go out and do things with a purpose you 2448 01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:54,060 know and I would like to look into uh 2449 01:51:01,729 --> 01:50:58,320 the alien agenda and and and UFOs and is 2450 01:51:03,950 --> 01:51:01,739 there life out there he literally rolled 2451 01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:03,960 his eyes up in his head 2452 01:51:07,970 --> 01:51:06,000 and says that's what everybody says good 2453 01:51:10,669 --> 01:51:07,980 luck with that in your career 2454 01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:10,679 I was like really 2455 01:51:16,810 --> 01:51:12,960 and that's that's the way that the 2456 01:51:19,729 --> 01:51:16,820 establishment looks at us Christina 2457 01:51:21,709 --> 01:51:19,739 well that that may be 2458 01:51:24,350 --> 01:51:21,719 um because I stuck to my guns and I 2459 01:51:27,470 --> 01:51:24,360 didn't sell out right I could have taken 2460 01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:27,480 the Kush job I could have 2461 01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:30,060 could have been some reporter for ABC or 2462 01:51:37,310 --> 01:51:33,840 some you know newscaster and taking the 2463 01:51:39,590 --> 01:51:37,320 easy way out and you know 401k and 2464 01:51:42,890 --> 01:51:39,600 really good health plan 2465 01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:42,900 all of that stuff but that's that's no 2466 01:51:48,830 --> 01:51:45,540 no I had I had said from the beginning 2467 01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:48,840 that this is what I wanted to do and and 2468 01:51:52,189 --> 01:51:51,119 um I remember and I love your comments 2469 01:51:54,350 --> 01:51:52,199 about this 2470 01:51:56,510 --> 01:51:54,360 um uh 2471 01:51:57,950 --> 01:51:56,520 uh I had asked one of my teachers and 2472 01:51:59,629 --> 01:51:57,960 you should do the same thing before you 2473 01:52:01,850 --> 01:51:59,639 graduate 2474 01:52:03,709 --> 01:52:01,860 go to your whoever's teaching your 2475 01:52:05,810 --> 01:52:03,719 communications class whatever it is and 2476 01:52:08,750 --> 01:52:05,820 whether it's journalism it's writing or 2477 01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:08,760 it's it's newscast whatever it is 2478 01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:12,000 whatever just go so um uh what would you 2479 01:52:17,930 --> 01:52:14,400 I need some help here you know um what 2480 01:52:20,990 --> 01:52:17,940 would you do if you had a uh a UFO case 2481 01:52:22,910 --> 01:52:21,000 where somebody has got a video and maybe 2482 01:52:24,649 --> 01:52:22,920 somebody was abducted and you had 2483 01:52:26,209 --> 01:52:24,659 Witnesses 2484 01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:26,219 um would you take that to your news 2485 01:52:30,410 --> 01:52:28,020 director how do you how do you how do 2486 01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,420 you approach that that's what you do and 2487 01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:32,639 listen to their answer 2488 01:52:41,810 --> 01:52:37,199 because that that's that's where it's at 2489 01:52:43,790 --> 01:52:41,820 because I did and as soon as somebody uh 2490 01:52:45,950 --> 01:52:43,800 you know responded back to me that's for 2491 01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:45,960 somebody from CNN by the way 2492 01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:50,639 that's career suicide I would never 2493 01:52:56,750 --> 01:52:53,280 I was like okay I know what I'm doing 2494 01:52:58,669 --> 01:52:56,760 exactly that I know what I'm doing 2495 01:53:00,109 --> 01:52:58,679 you know and you should do that and you 2496 01:53:02,750 --> 01:53:00,119 should get a feel for how the 2497 01:53:04,970 --> 01:53:02,760 establishment is really dealing with 2498 01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:04,980 these uh subjects I I really strongly 2499 01:53:09,470 --> 01:53:07,440 suggest that you need to you need to 2500 01:53:12,109 --> 01:53:09,480 hear it and see it for yourself 2501 01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:12,119 luckily the conversation is changing it 2502 01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,400 is easier to write about UFOs there's a 2503 01:53:20,090 --> 01:53:16,320 lot more articles regarding UFOs in the 2504 01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,100 recent years since the 2017 article so I 2505 01:53:25,970 --> 01:53:22,560 don't necessarily consider it to be 2506 01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:25,980 career suicide in 2023 yes it's still 2507 01:53:31,609 --> 01:53:28,800 somewhat difficult from time to time but 2508 01:53:34,430 --> 01:53:31,619 overall I think it's a lot 2509 01:53:37,010 --> 01:53:34,440 more flexible to write about these 2510 01:53:38,510 --> 01:53:37,020 things and be decently successful than 2511 01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:38,520 back 2512 01:53:43,490 --> 01:53:40,800 a few decades ago 2513 01:53:45,229 --> 01:53:43,500 I mean that's you oh you have no idea 2514 01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:45,239 it's it's changed in the last two years 2515 01:53:50,390 --> 01:53:48,480 it's no longer a French topic which is 2516 01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:50,400 amazing it's because we're having these 2517 01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:52,320 conversations Jimmy and more people are 2518 01:53:58,970 --> 01:53:55,920 being interested in what's happening 2519 01:54:01,729 --> 01:53:58,980 here all the Mysteries I and I hope it 2520 01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:01,739 doesn't swing back you know I hope it 2521 01:54:08,209 --> 01:54:06,239 doesn't go back to remember in in in uh 2522 01:54:12,290 --> 01:54:08,219 1947 2523 01:54:14,810 --> 01:54:12,300 50 5152 the UFO flap over Washington DC 2524 01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:14,820 those were headlines man 2525 01:54:20,209 --> 01:54:18,239 right well it was it was still it was 2526 01:54:22,310 --> 01:54:20,219 okay you could do that you could talk 2527 01:54:25,870 --> 01:54:22,320 about this and you can report it uh that 2528 01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:25,880 that and then it took the downturn 2529 01:54:31,850 --> 01:54:29,520 and uh you know yeah I I agree it has 2530 01:54:33,649 --> 01:54:31,860 swung back up and it's now back into the 2531 01:54:36,530 --> 01:54:33,659 safe Zone somebody has said that it's 2532 01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:36,540 okay I hope it doesn't go back in the 2533 01:54:41,390 --> 01:54:38,400 other direction I hope it stays where 2534 01:54:42,890 --> 01:54:41,400 where it is right now I don't think so I 2535 01:54:44,930 --> 01:54:42,900 think the cat's already out of the bag 2536 01:54:46,669 --> 01:54:44,940 that the beans have been spilled on the 2537 01:54:48,050 --> 01:54:46,679 floor I don't know how that metaphor 2538 01:54:51,410 --> 01:54:48,060 goes but you know what I'm referring to 2539 01:54:53,450 --> 01:54:51,420 and I think that at this point it's it's 2540 01:54:56,030 --> 01:54:53,460 only going to be a conversation that 2541 01:54:58,729 --> 01:54:56,040 will continue to gain people's interest 2542 01:55:00,830 --> 01:54:58,739 more so than ever before 2543 01:55:04,370 --> 01:55:00,840 um and so what's next then uh what's 2544 01:55:06,310 --> 01:55:04,380 next for you be obviously graduating but 2545 01:55:09,590 --> 01:55:06,320 uh you just started a music channel 2546 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:09,600 right and I think that is a very that 2547 01:55:14,270 --> 01:55:12,480 caught me by surprise I had no idea I 2548 01:55:16,609 --> 01:55:14,280 knew that you were really good at at 2549 01:55:19,550 --> 01:55:16,619 video content and animation and and 2550 01:55:21,169 --> 01:55:19,560 creating and and editing but uh the 2551 01:55:22,729 --> 01:55:21,179 music stuff came out of nowhere but 2552 01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:22,739 you've started your music channel but 2553 01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:26,239 what else is uh on the horizon 2554 01:55:33,169 --> 01:55:30,239 well it will be officially purchasing an 2555 01:55:35,209 --> 01:55:33,179 RV for for sure I mean I have it in the 2556 01:55:36,830 --> 01:55:35,219 works but now it's just actually 2557 01:55:39,050 --> 01:55:36,840 getting one 2558 01:55:41,390 --> 01:55:39,060 and uh still continuing the music 2559 01:55:43,370 --> 01:55:41,400 channel becoming doing more on that 2560 01:55:46,310 --> 01:55:43,380 because my it this is my original 2561 01:55:49,450 --> 01:55:46,320 channel that started with music the my 2562 01:55:52,189 --> 01:55:49,460 Christina Gomez Channel that I have now 2563 01:55:54,830 --> 01:55:52,199 originally started with music a few 2564 01:55:57,890 --> 01:55:54,840 years back it then went from there to 2565 01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:57,900 look at UFO sightings and then into 2566 01:56:01,850 --> 01:56:00,480 doing the live shows that we do now but 2567 01:56:03,169 --> 01:56:01,860 about like if you scroll to the very 2568 01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:03,179 bottom of the channel about like three 2569 01:56:09,950 --> 01:56:05,760 years ago now it start I started doing 2570 01:56:13,689 --> 01:56:09,960 sleep music and ASMR music and then I 2571 01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:13,699 kind of are it's like it's just to relax 2572 01:56:17,689 --> 01:56:16,080 ASMR yeah 2573 01:56:19,729 --> 01:56:17,699 um if you type it in you'll find some 2574 01:56:21,290 --> 01:56:19,739 really strange things but the way that 2575 01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:21,300 I'm using it is just a form of 2576 01:56:26,090 --> 01:56:22,800 relaxation 2577 01:56:28,010 --> 01:56:26,100 um with with musical tones but I've 2578 01:56:30,470 --> 01:56:28,020 always been interested in creating music 2579 01:56:32,750 --> 01:56:30,480 but now it's actually dedicating a 2580 01:56:34,250 --> 01:56:32,760 separate channel to it because it seemed 2581 01:56:37,070 --> 01:56:34,260 like doing it on my channel didn't 2582 01:56:39,770 --> 01:56:37,080 really work it's also helped with 2583 01:56:42,530 --> 01:56:39,780 my insomnia I've gotten comments by 2584 01:56:46,189 --> 01:56:42,540 people stating it helps them as well but 2585 01:56:49,970 --> 01:56:46,199 my insomnia is kind of has made me make 2586 01:56:52,669 --> 01:56:49,980 music so I I use that time where I can't 2587 01:56:55,850 --> 01:56:52,679 sleep into being creative and creating 2588 01:56:57,169 --> 01:56:55,860 something that I enjoy doing one quick 2589 01:56:58,550 --> 01:56:57,179 thing that I would like to mention 2590 01:56:59,689 --> 01:56:58,560 because I know that we're getting to the 2591 01:57:01,250 --> 01:56:59,699 end of the show 2592 01:57:03,890 --> 01:57:01,260 regarding 2593 01:57:06,169 --> 01:57:03,900 um the UFO phenomenon and writing about 2594 01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:06,179 it writing articles about it potentially 2595 01:57:11,149 --> 01:57:08,639 even talking to professors about what 2596 01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:11,159 their answer would be I think now there 2597 01:57:16,129 --> 01:57:13,440 is a convergence going on and we're 2598 01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:16,139 moving on from just talking about UFOs 2599 01:57:21,169 --> 01:57:18,360 to UFOs being mixed with other Mysteries 2600 01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:21,179 look at Skinwalker Ranch for example and 2601 01:57:24,890 --> 01:57:23,040 we've talked about this time and time 2602 01:57:27,770 --> 01:57:24,900 again but it's a really fantastic 2603 01:57:31,310 --> 01:57:27,780 example of where you're dealing with a 2604 01:57:34,129 --> 01:57:31,320 location in the Uinta Basin that has 2605 01:57:36,530 --> 01:57:34,139 UFO sightings paranormal encounters 2606 01:57:39,530 --> 01:57:36,540 Cryptid sightings potentially even 2607 01:57:42,350 --> 01:57:39,540 portals and wormholes as well and it's 2608 01:57:44,930 --> 01:57:42,360 getting all of this attention through 2609 01:57:47,330 --> 01:57:44,940 social media and through television to 2610 01:57:49,129 --> 01:57:47,340 where Brandon fugle had mentioned that 2611 01:57:51,229 --> 01:57:49,139 all of the data that they're collecting 2612 01:57:54,169 --> 01:57:51,239 they're making it completely transparent 2613 01:57:56,030 --> 01:57:54,179 that whatever they find it's available 2614 01:57:58,370 --> 01:57:56,040 to the public they're not holding 2615 01:58:00,649 --> 01:57:58,380 anything back while they are classified 2616 01:58:03,229 --> 01:58:00,659 as a private entity right not owned by 2617 01:58:06,229 --> 01:58:03,239 the government they care about the 2618 01:58:08,750 --> 01:58:06,239 information that they are collecting and 2619 01:58:11,450 --> 01:58:08,760 they said we want everyone to know about 2620 01:58:13,850 --> 01:58:11,460 these Mysteries then my interview with 2621 01:58:16,729 --> 01:58:13,860 Brandon is the number one most watched 2622 01:58:19,129 --> 01:58:16,739 show on my channel and because the 2623 01:58:21,530 --> 01:58:19,139 interest in the ranch is crazy high 2624 01:58:24,530 --> 01:58:21,540 everyone wants to understand these 2625 01:58:27,709 --> 01:58:24,540 Mysteries but there are other locations 2626 01:58:30,470 --> 01:58:27,719 like Skinwalker Ranch across the globe 2627 01:58:32,750 --> 01:58:30,480 however Skinwalker Ranch is getting that 2628 01:58:36,290 --> 01:58:32,760 scientific research those scientific 2629 01:58:39,410 --> 01:58:36,300 teams and that exposure to the world 2630 01:58:43,070 --> 01:58:39,420 compared to any other location but it is 2631 01:58:45,890 --> 01:58:43,080 a place that is a great example of the 2632 01:58:49,550 --> 01:58:45,900 Paranormal the UFO phenomenon when it's 2633 01:58:56,810 --> 01:58:53,030 I would if I was a betting man if I was 2634 01:59:01,370 --> 01:58:56,820 Brandon fugle right and I had a billion 2635 01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:01,380 dollars well I I would bet 2636 01:59:07,430 --> 01:59:06,000 that if you took the same amount of 2637 01:59:11,390 --> 01:59:07,440 staff 2638 01:59:13,970 --> 01:59:11,400 with the same amount of gear 2639 01:59:15,290 --> 01:59:13,980 and the facilities I'm talking about you 2640 01:59:17,750 --> 01:59:15,300 have a home you've got a mess hall 2641 01:59:19,850 --> 01:59:17,760 you've got a a tech center you've got 2642 01:59:22,970 --> 01:59:19,860 all these things right if you took that 2643 01:59:24,649 --> 01:59:22,980 to any Ranch in America 2644 01:59:27,709 --> 01:59:24,659 you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna 2645 01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:27,719 find and and see the same things 2646 01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:30,000 and I'm not saying that 2647 01:59:34,370 --> 01:59:33,119 um that Basin and what is going is not a 2648 01:59:37,370 --> 01:59:34,380 special place 2649 01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:37,380 but you know so was Joshua tree so was 2650 01:59:40,910 --> 01:59:39,360 Sedona Arizona 2651 01:59:42,530 --> 01:59:40,920 um there are places in New York there 2652 01:59:45,709 --> 01:59:42,540 are places in Michigan there are places 2653 01:59:49,209 --> 01:59:45,719 in Minnesota Marshall Ranch in Sedona 2654 01:59:55,550 --> 01:59:53,209 exactly right so it's not just I 2655 01:59:58,430 --> 01:59:55,560 skinwalker's cool right skin Walker's 2656 02:00:00,649 --> 01:59:58,440 cool but if you took Brandon's team and 2657 02:00:02,510 --> 02:00:00,659 his resources and plug that in across 2658 02:00:05,629 --> 02:00:02,520 the country right and we have 2659 02:00:08,570 --> 02:00:05,639 universities uh that are very capable of 2660 02:00:11,390 --> 02:00:08,580 this in every single state you know go 2661 02:00:14,450 --> 02:00:11,400 and set up camp and get to measuring 2662 02:00:17,149 --> 02:00:14,460 right and let's get some answers to this 2663 02:00:19,970 --> 02:00:17,159 because there is obviously something 2664 02:00:22,669 --> 02:00:19,980 going on and it's not it's not just 2665 02:00:26,570 --> 02:00:22,679 isolated and you know right there at 2666 02:00:28,430 --> 02:00:26,580 Skinwalker now it's uh it's it's across 2667 02:00:30,770 --> 02:00:28,440 the United States it's wherever you want 2668 02:00:33,589 --> 02:00:30,780 to set up camping and you know get the 2669 02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:33,599 cameras rolling but there there is a 2670 02:00:42,530 --> 02:00:39,350 there is but you brought it up yourself 2671 02:00:43,910 --> 02:00:42,540 the Bridgewater Triangle that show that 2672 02:00:45,950 --> 02:00:43,920 we did 2673 02:00:48,589 --> 02:00:45,960 um on that area all the way up to the 2674 02:00:50,510 --> 02:00:48,599 border of Canada and back there are more 2675 02:00:53,530 --> 02:00:50,520 missing persons on that stretch of road 2676 02:00:56,689 --> 02:00:53,540 than I think anywhere on planet Earth 2677 02:01:00,410 --> 02:00:56,699 it's like you remember how many cases we 2678 02:01:02,750 --> 02:01:00,420 did remember so many so many we did well 2679 02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:02,760 we even talked about the Alaskan 2680 02:01:08,209 --> 02:01:04,800 triangle which is the place that has the 2681 02:01:11,270 --> 02:01:08,219 most disappearances in North America 2682 02:01:14,390 --> 02:01:11,280 how many people on that road in New 2683 02:01:15,830 --> 02:01:14,400 Hampshire right uh you know talk about 2684 02:01:18,290 --> 02:01:15,840 Betty and Barney Hill but on that road 2685 02:01:20,930 --> 02:01:18,300 remember that five-year stretch it was 2686 02:01:22,750 --> 02:01:20,940 like anybody that ever went hiking 2687 02:01:25,790 --> 02:01:22,760 disappeared forever 2688 02:01:27,290 --> 02:01:25,800 it didn't matter 2689 02:01:29,689 --> 02:01:27,300 remember that you remember the little 2690 02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:29,699 kid that was sitting in his pickup truck 2691 02:01:35,810 --> 02:01:32,000 while his mom was dealing with the pigs 2692 02:01:37,850 --> 02:01:35,820 uh that story is so terrible but I mean 2693 02:01:39,890 --> 02:01:37,860 looking looking at those locations and 2694 02:01:41,930 --> 02:01:39,900 almost every 2695 02:01:43,790 --> 02:01:41,940 um like state that we do we all we 2696 02:01:45,530 --> 02:01:43,800 always do a part two in particular with 2697 02:01:47,390 --> 02:01:45,540 the Bridgewater Triangle we did a part 2698 02:01:49,850 --> 02:01:47,400 two and I feel like we could have done 2699 02:01:54,729 --> 02:01:49,860 even a part three on that place because 2700 02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:54,739 it's so crazy and these are hot spots 2701 02:02:01,370 --> 02:01:58,800 across the globe and it's not getting as 2702 02:02:03,850 --> 02:02:01,380 it's not getting enough attention that 2703 02:02:06,830 --> 02:02:03,860 it deserves because these are in a sense 2704 02:02:08,330 --> 02:02:06,840 hazardous locations they have to be very 2705 02:02:10,370 --> 02:02:08,340 cautious because you don't know what 2706 02:02:12,229 --> 02:02:10,380 you're going to encounter and you don't 2707 02:02:13,609 --> 02:02:12,239 know if you're gonna disappear in those 2708 02:02:17,390 --> 02:02:13,619 places as well because there's a lot of 2709 02:02:19,490 --> 02:02:17,400 disappearances in those hot spot areas 2710 02:02:22,570 --> 02:02:19,500 and without any of that 2711 02:02:26,390 --> 02:02:22,580 there would be no Puck wedgie 2712 02:02:28,490 --> 02:02:26,400 Christina thank you so much and thank 2713 02:02:30,770 --> 02:02:28,500 you for everything that you do this is a 2714 02:02:32,089 --> 02:02:30,780 a great conversation tonight and it's a 2715 02:02:34,189 --> 02:02:32,099 great way to kick off the New Year 2716 02:02:35,930 --> 02:02:34,199 behave and be well I'll talk to you 2717 02:02:37,070 --> 02:02:35,940 first thing in the morning all right 2718 02:02:40,010 --> 02:02:37,080 thanks Jimmy 2719 02:02:43,129 --> 02:02:40,020 Christina Gomez the absolute very best 2720 02:02:44,390 --> 02:02:43,139 thank you Christina and uh with that uh 2721 02:02:47,209 --> 02:02:44,400 let's get out of here I want everybody 2722 02:02:50,270 --> 02:02:47,219 to go and have a great safe fun and 2723 02:02:52,970 --> 02:02:50,280 amazing weekend it's right there in 2724 02:02:54,830 --> 02:02:52,980 front of you all right all right let me 2725 02:02:56,270 --> 02:02:54,840 see where am I at does anybody know I'm 2726 02:02:58,250 --> 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